Rovinescu: FIX THIS.
Apr 13, 2012, 12:04 pm
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Apr 13, 2012, 1:11 pm
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Maybe Jazz/Chorus will buy a bankrupt Air Canada. Fold it into their own. Fire the entire board and senior management of the current AC. Maybe even start up a true FF plan. 
I hear there are a few 757's that may be available to get some routes going during the transition process.
I hear there are a few 757's that may be available to get some routes going during the transition process.
Better for Jazz to wait for AC to fold, then purchase their personnel files to avoid hiring AC's duds.
Apr 13, 2012, 1:44 pm
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Having stewed on this the whole day I honestly think it's time for Air Canada customers to step up and have a voice:
Rovinescu needs to go (without his $5 million retention bonus) and hand over to someone with the skills to resolve the current predicament. The status quo is unacceptable.
Perhaps we need a Rovinescu needs to go thread...?
Rovinescu needs to go (without his $5 million retention bonus) and hand over to someone with the skills to resolve the current predicament. The status quo is unacceptable.
Perhaps we need a Rovinescu needs to go thread...?
Apr 13, 2012, 1:56 pm
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Apr 13, 2012, 2:13 pm
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This mess is going to arbitration and you have a group flouting the law.
Wonder how the arbitrator or shoud I say arbitraitor feels about this.
IMO,Calin is the lightning rod.I do not necessarily agree with OP that he is all the problem and should be terminated.
Imagine what the golden handshake would be?
Adding gas to the fire??
Wonder how the arbitrator or shoud I say arbitraitor feels about this.
IMO,Calin is the lightning rod.I do not necessarily agree with OP that he is all the problem and should be terminated.
Imagine what the golden handshake would be?
Adding gas to the fire??
Apr 13, 2012, 2:30 pm
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While one does feel energized by chanting Fire Calin, I don't see how this mess can be fixed by anyone. If anything, the government meddling of AC worked far more into the favour of the labour unions and really stripped Calin of any leverage to play tough with them.
Had they locked them out, stripped them of their pay cheques at a time when most of the employees are under crushing holiday season debt, he probably could have gotten somewhere with the unions. Instead the unions get to continue to get their pay cheques, service time towards their pensions AND continue to hold the business and its clients hostage.
As for Calin and his $5 million - given how messed up AC is and the absurd playing field, you're going to have to pay waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more than $5 million to get any talented executive to come in and take his place.
Had they locked them out, stripped them of their pay cheques at a time when most of the employees are under crushing holiday season debt, he probably could have gotten somewhere with the unions. Instead the unions get to continue to get their pay cheques, service time towards their pensions AND continue to hold the business and its clients hostage.
As for Calin and his $5 million - given how messed up AC is and the absurd playing field, you're going to have to pay waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more than $5 million to get any talented executive to come in and take his place.
Apr 13, 2012, 2:39 pm
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Rovinescu is ultimately responsible but has shown no leadership ability to move the proverbial peanut forward.
I'd rather pay someone more to make progress than continue to pay millions for the status-quo.
I'd rather pay someone more to make progress than continue to pay millions for the status-quo.
Apr 13, 2012, 2:59 pm
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Union leadership is also responsible.Skirting deftly around legislation,having their leadership say they should be at work
,negotiate a contract that is unanimously accepted by bargaining committe(s) to have it voted down by members.... is angering me.
The wheel is broke
,negotiate a contract that is unanimously accepted by bargaining committe(s) to have it voted down by members.... is angering me.The wheel is broke
Apr 13, 2012, 3:11 pm
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Completely agree. (New) leadership, capable of union and government negotiation (or at least the implementation of a team that can do that) is required.
Apr 13, 2012, 3:17 pm
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I just had an idea! @:-)
They could get that YYZ MLL Domestic warden, the heftier one with the gruff attitude and the torn work uniform and place in the room to 'mediate' between the pilots and management. I think it would be over soon enough.
They could get that YYZ MLL Domestic warden, the heftier one with the gruff attitude and the torn work uniform and place in the room to 'mediate' between the pilots and management. I think it would be over soon enough.
Apr 13, 2012, 3:54 pm
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BTW this sort of situation is not typical to AC, but probably much more widespread.
Management totally focused upon how good they look in the very short term, shorter than ever. Usually, management tenure is short term; as in the military, better move on/get promoted before the s... hits the fan.
While employees stay, especially in this union system with seniority etc.
Apr 13, 2012, 4:00 pm
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Want to show your anger? How about some of the following.
If your mutual fund, or any stocks in your portfolio include AC, sell em. Sell em all. Let your broker know why youre selling them. Send an email to AC management and Union management, let them know youre selling. Post that youve sold your faith and stocks on the AC facebook page. Do the same on your own page. Do the same on the FB pages that other investors might see. LIKE when others post the same. See a trend starting to develop? Alert the media. (They love FB)
Book your next flight(s) on another carrier. Post your itinerary on the AC FB page. Send an email to AC management and union management. Let them know theyve let you down and enough is enough. LIKE when others post their new itineraries. Start showing AC that as consumers were fed up, p***ed off and not going to take it anymore.
Book latitude tickets, and then cancel on flight day for a full refund.
Be creative. Get mad, but dont just vent your anger and frustration here on FT. Youre preaching to the choir. Social media continues to play a mega force when the right cause is afoot. Just think of last spring in the Middle East. Egypt, Libya etc etc.
Ive booked my flight for next week. Its not on AC. I dont care if their site is down today, tomorrow or whenever. Im not setting foot on an AC aircraft again until this finished and everyone is playing happily together in the sandbox. (not after tonight...this mess has caused me a delay so not home yet)
Im in YYZ now, annoyed about my cancelled flight, sitting here in the lounge when I should be home. Theres nothing like an overcrowded MLL on a Friday night.
If your mutual fund, or any stocks in your portfolio include AC, sell em. Sell em all. Let your broker know why youre selling them. Send an email to AC management and Union management, let them know youre selling. Post that youve sold your faith and stocks on the AC facebook page. Do the same on your own page. Do the same on the FB pages that other investors might see. LIKE when others post the same. See a trend starting to develop? Alert the media. (They love FB)
Book your next flight(s) on another carrier. Post your itinerary on the AC FB page. Send an email to AC management and union management. Let them know theyve let you down and enough is enough. LIKE when others post their new itineraries. Start showing AC that as consumers were fed up, p***ed off and not going to take it anymore.
Book latitude tickets, and then cancel on flight day for a full refund.
Be creative. Get mad, but dont just vent your anger and frustration here on FT. Youre preaching to the choir. Social media continues to play a mega force when the right cause is afoot. Just think of last spring in the Middle East. Egypt, Libya etc etc.
Ive booked my flight for next week. Its not on AC. I dont care if their site is down today, tomorrow or whenever. Im not setting foot on an AC aircraft again until this finished and everyone is playing happily together in the sandbox. (not after tonight...this mess has caused me a delay so not home yet)
Im in YYZ now, annoyed about my cancelled flight, sitting here in the lounge when I should be home. Theres nothing like an overcrowded MLL on a Friday night.
Apr 13, 2012, 4:20 pm
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Message on Air Canada's web site says it all:
"The link you followed is either outdated, inaccurate, or the server has been instructed not to let you have it... "
Step down Rovinescu!
"The link you followed is either outdated, inaccurate, or the server has been instructed not to let you have it... "
Step down Rovinescu!
Apr 13, 2012, 4:31 pm
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Enough already!
You've had your ostrich head in the corporate sand way too long, falling back on government intervention rather than fixing labor issues which have dragged for way, way too long.
I'm fed up with waking up in the morning to find my flight is cancelled because of labor disruption. Again. And again. And again.
Fix it. Or quit. And let someone who knows what they're doing fix it.
I don't care which.
Yes, I'm mad as hell this morning
You've had your ostrich head in the corporate sand way too long, falling back on government intervention rather than fixing labor issues which have dragged for way, way too long.
I'm fed up with waking up in the morning to find my flight is cancelled because of labor disruption. Again. And again. And again.
Fix it. Or quit. And let someone who knows what they're doing fix it.
I don't care which.
Yes, I'm mad as hell this morning
I've been following this (sorry) saga since it began a few weeks ago. I do not profess to know anything about the intricacies of airlines (I just know I enjoy being aboard airplanes
) and was wondering if it would make sense for the government to allow another carrier (for the purposes of discussion say Lufthansa as they are a fellow *A carrier) to operate as a de facto second "national" airline? If there is/was such a thing as KLM Asia, why could there not be say a Lufthansa Canada or Lufthansa North America? Would this be a viable idea?