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Old Nov 7, 2011 | 8:51 am
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FA Arbitration Decision

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/repor...rticle2227953/

The union representing Air Canada flight attendants says an arbitrator has ruled in favour of management, imposing a tentative agreement that members rejected last month.

Mr. Moist described the ruling by federal arbitrator Elizabeth MacPherson as profoundly disappointing.
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Old Nov 7, 2011 | 9:00 am
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Originally Posted by fin 645
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/repor...rticle2227953/

The union representing Air Canada flight attendants says an arbitrator has ruled in favour of management, imposing a tentative agreement that members rejected last month.

Mr. Moist described the ruling by federal arbitrator Elizabeth MacPherson as profoundly disappointing.
Errrrrrrrr my flight back to YEG on Thursday may not be fun if FA's are a bit disgruntled....
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Old Nov 7, 2011 | 9:01 am
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Wonder how service will be now
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Old Nov 7, 2011 | 11:10 am
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Originally Posted by YOWzer
Wonder how service will be now
Service to the customer should remain the same. AC inflight service has gotten better over the last year.Should the FAs still have issues,the customer should never be the scapegoat.
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Old Nov 7, 2011 | 11:26 am
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Service to the customer should remain the same. AC inflight service has gotten better over the last year.Should the FAs still have issues,the customer should never be the scapegoat.
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Old Nov 7, 2011 | 12:01 pm
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Why is the union leader disappointed? This is the deal that they (not the FAs) negotiated with AC.
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Old Nov 7, 2011 | 12:27 pm
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Originally Posted by 172pilot
Why is the union leader disappointed? This is the deal that they (not the FAs) negotiated with AC.
I was thinking the same..was this not the deal they encouraged the FAs to accept
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Old Nov 7, 2011 | 1:13 pm
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It is....

Just another example of unions being nothing but useless.

They negotiate, get a contract, gets rejected, bring it to court, have it imposed and then they are disapointed? Saying exactly what the membership wants to hear... nothing but a bunch of useless .... well you know

(Sorry if any FF out there are union reps or in any other way related, but it had to be said!)
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Old Nov 7, 2011 | 3:26 pm
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I was sitting beside a ground crew guy on a flight last week and we got chatting to union contracts on FA's.

Let's just say the FA antics aren't appreciated by the "full-time guys" (as he put it) within AC, either.
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Old Nov 7, 2011 | 4:08 pm
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Mr. Moist? Is this a joke?
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Old Nov 7, 2011 | 6:13 pm
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Originally Posted by Braindrain
Let's just say the FA antics aren't appreciated by the "full-time guys" (as he put it) within AC, either.
They're ground staff... the absolute weakest and most disorganised group of AC employees. Some of these people definitely could not cut it "upstairs" in the customer service world as a CSA or the like. They're not happy with anything.
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Wonder how service will be now
Nothing as bad as what's going on with our colleagues to the south flying UA/CO are experiencing on their flights that's for sure.
“This government has been extremely irresponsible, and it’s their constant interference in collective bargaining that tipped the scales in favour of the company and against hard-working flight attendants,” Mr. Moist said.
Yeah, where do we complain about the government's antics?
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Old Nov 7, 2011 | 6:56 pm
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Originally Posted by Santander
They're ground staff... the absolute weakest and most disorganised group of AC employees. Some of these people definitely could not cut it "upstairs" in the customer service world as a CSA or the like. They're not happy with anything.
He's obviously not your normal "ground staffer" or else he wouldn't be flying on his way to work beside me.
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Old Nov 7, 2011 | 7:37 pm
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Originally Posted by Braindrain
He's obviously not your normal "ground staffer" or else he wouldn't be flying on his way to work beside me.
Fair enough, I assumed he was just a normal non-rev.
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Old Nov 7, 2011 | 9:50 pm
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I was reading a similar article in the Calgary Herald today..

I think the arbitrators' logic made sense.. because the union execs went back to the trough twice and the second negotiation was as close to a voluntary resolution as a voluntary negotiation is going to get..

I think a fair ruling.. plus little chance for a successful appeal by the union.., so I think that's it for awhile with the FAs
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