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fin 645 Nov 7, 2011 8:51 am

FA Arbitration Decision
 
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/repor...rticle2227953/

The union representing Air Canada flight attendants says an arbitrator has ruled in favour of management, imposing a tentative agreement that members rejected last month.

Mr. Moist described the ruling by federal arbitrator Elizabeth MacPherson as “profoundly disappointing.”

morphius909 Nov 7, 2011 9:00 am


Originally Posted by fin 645 (Post 17406075)
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/repor...rticle2227953/

The union representing Air Canada flight attendants says an arbitrator has ruled in favour of management, imposing a tentative agreement that members rejected last month.

Mr. Moist described the ruling by federal arbitrator Elizabeth MacPherson as “profoundly disappointing.”

Errrrrrrrr my flight back to YEG on Thursday may not be fun if FA's are a bit disgruntled....

YOWzer Nov 7, 2011 9:01 am

Wonder how service will be now :p

acysb87 Nov 7, 2011 11:10 am


Originally Posted by YOWzer (Post 17406137)
Wonder how service will be now :p

Service to the customer should remain the same. AC inflight service has gotten better over the last year.Should the FAs still have issues,the customer should never be the scapegoat.

YOWzer Nov 7, 2011 11:26 am


Originally Posted by acysb87 (Post 17406913)
Service to the customer should remain the same. AC inflight service has gotten better over the last year.Should the FAs still have issues,the customer should never be the scapegoat.

In a blue sky world :D

172pilot Nov 7, 2011 12:01 pm

Why is the union leader disappointed? This is the deal that they (not the FAs) negotiated with AC.

YOWzer Nov 7, 2011 12:27 pm


Originally Posted by 172pilot (Post 17407197)
Why is the union leader disappointed? This is the deal that they (not the FAs) negotiated with AC.

I was thinking the same..was this not the deal they encouraged the FAs to accept :confused:

hearna Nov 7, 2011 1:13 pm

It is....

Just another example of unions being nothing but useless.

They negotiate, get a contract, gets rejected, bring it to court, have it imposed and then they are disapointed? Saying exactly what the membership wants to hear... nothing but a bunch of useless .... well you know

(Sorry if any FF out there are union reps or in any other way related, but it had to be said!)

acysb87 Nov 7, 2011 1:20 pm


Originally Posted by YOWzer (Post 17406995)
In a blue sky world :D

It is blue ,today:D;)

Braindrain Nov 7, 2011 3:26 pm

I was sitting beside a ground crew guy on a flight last week and we got chatting to union contracts on FA's.

Let's just say the FA antics aren't appreciated by the "full-time guys" (as he put it) within AC, either.

huntk Nov 7, 2011 4:08 pm

Mr. Moist? Is this a joke?

Santander Nov 7, 2011 6:13 pm


Originally Posted by Braindrain (Post 17408513)
Let's just say the FA antics aren't appreciated by the "full-time guys" (as he put it) within AC, either.

They're ground staff... the absolute weakest and most disorganised group of AC employees. Some of these people definitely could not cut it "upstairs" in the customer service world as a CSA or the like. They're not happy with anything.

Originally Posted by YOWzer (Post 17406137)
Wonder how service will be now :p

Nothing as bad as what's going on with our colleagues to the south flying UA/CO are experiencing on their flights that's for sure.

“This government has been extremely irresponsible, and it’s their constant interference in collective bargaining that tipped the scales in favour of the company and against hard-working flight attendants,” Mr. Moist said.
Yeah, where do we complain about the government's antics?

Braindrain Nov 7, 2011 6:56 pm


Originally Posted by Santander (Post 17409332)
They're ground staff... the absolute weakest and most disorganised group of AC employees. Some of these people definitely could not cut it "upstairs" in the customer service world as a CSA or the like. They're not happy with anything.

He's obviously not your normal "ground staffer" or else he wouldn't be flying on his way to work beside me.

Santander Nov 7, 2011 7:37 pm


Originally Posted by Braindrain (Post 17409546)
He's obviously not your normal "ground staffer" or else he wouldn't be flying on his way to work beside me.

Fair enough, I assumed he was just a normal non-rev.

Ancien Maestro Nov 7, 2011 9:50 pm

I was reading a similar article in the Calgary Herald today..

I think the arbitrators' logic made sense.. because the union execs went back to the trough twice and the second negotiation was as close to a voluntary resolution as a voluntary negotiation is going to get..

I think a fair ruling.. plus little chance for a successful appeal by the union.., so I think that's it for awhile with the FAs


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