Mini RTW Questions
Sep 30, 2017, 3:49 pm
#5101
Join Date: Nov 2016
Programs: Aeroplan
Posts: 7
Trying to fly YYZ-BKK December 2 - 23rd with a stopover or 2 in between I would like Somewhere in europe but everywhere seems expensive or cold at this time of year.
Right now best Flights seem to be YYZ-SIN-BKK for routing but I would like another stop/destination.
Right now best Flights seem to be YYZ-SIN-BKK for routing but I would like another stop/destination.
Sep 30, 2017, 4:18 pm
#5102
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Join Date: May 2009
Location: FRA / YEG
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You could visit some Christmas markets in Germany/Austria if that's of interest. If you want somewhere warmer, how abotu Greece? Or possibly Israel? (although staying within MPM can be a challenge)
Sep 30, 2017, 5:11 pm
#5103
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: YEG
Programs: TK*G, AC
Posts: 345
Not that I'm aware of; that info is scattered throughout this thread/forum. Good luck!
Sep 30, 2017, 5:16 pm
#5104
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Location: BOS, YVR, ZRH
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If I have an OJ at my destination, is the distance of the OJ included in my mileage for MPM purposes or not?
Eg if I do YVR-PER//MEL-YVR, is PER-MEL included in my allowable mileage for my return or does only MEL-YVR have to fall below PER-YVR MPM?
Or... Would it be two different MPMs for inbound/outbound?
Eg if I do YVR-PER//MEL-YVR, is PER-MEL included in my allowable mileage for my return or does only MEL-YVR have to fall below PER-YVR MPM?
Or... Would it be two different MPMs for inbound/outbound?
Oct 2, 2017, 3:23 am
#5105
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: YYZ, YUL, PEK
Posts: 429
If I have an OJ at my destination, is the distance of the OJ included in my mileage for MPM purposes or not?
Eg if I do YVR-PER//MEL-YVR, is PER-MEL included in my allowable mileage for my return or does only MEL-YVR have to fall below PER-YVR MPM?
Or... Would it be two different MPMs for inbound/outbound?
Eg if I do YVR-PER//MEL-YVR, is PER-MEL included in my allowable mileage for my return or does only MEL-YVR have to fall below PER-YVR MPM?
Or... Would it be two different MPMs for inbound/outbound?
So PER-MEL-YVR must fall below PER-YVR MPM.
Oct 2, 2017, 7:26 am
#5106
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: YYC
Programs: Hilton Diamond, Fairmont Plat, IHG Spire, SPG Gold, WS Gold, Hertz PC, National E Elite,
Posts: 2,768
THANK YOU!!! With your assistance and about 20 hours of reserach, I just returned from a honeymoon mini-RTW that was amazing! (Except for the last ANA leg - more on that below). We flew the following itnerary:
YYC-YYZ - AC J (lie flat)
YYZ-IST - TK J(lie flat)
IST - DAR - TK J (not lie-flat, but very private. We had nice sleeps)
DAR - SIN - ET J (lie flat)
SIN-DPS-SIN KLM J (lie-flat we paid for this flight as it was over MPM)
SIN - NRT ANA J (with 23 hours in Tokyo which was fun)
HND - YVR ANA J (This flight was HORRIBLE. They switched to an old 787 plane with the worst business class seats I have EVER seen)
YVR - YYC AC Y (we did standby for free to get on an earlier flight which only had Y available).
Thanks again everyone!
YYC-YYZ - AC J (lie flat)
YYZ-IST - TK J(lie flat)
IST - DAR - TK J (not lie-flat, but very private. We had nice sleeps)
DAR - SIN - ET J (lie flat)
SIN-DPS-SIN KLM J (lie-flat we paid for this flight as it was over MPM)
SIN - NRT ANA J (with 23 hours in Tokyo which was fun)
HND - YVR ANA J (This flight was HORRIBLE. They switched to an old 787 plane with the worst business class seats I have EVER seen)
YVR - YYC AC Y (we did standby for free to get on an earlier flight which only had Y available).
Thanks again everyone!
Oct 2, 2017, 1:35 pm
#5107
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: YVR - MILLS Waypoint (It's the third house on the left)
Programs: AC*SE100K, wood level status in various other programs
Posts: 6,232
Oct 2, 2017, 2:31 pm
#5108
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: YYC
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Posts: 2,768
Yes, we stopped for 5 days in Istanbul, we stopped for 2 weeks in DAR (went to a safari in Selous and the island of Zanzibar), and for 5 days in Singapore (SIN was technically our "turn")
Oct 3, 2017, 9:55 am
#5109
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: YVR - MILLS Waypoint (It's the third house on the left)
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Posts: 6,232
Oct 4, 2017, 7:13 pm
#5110
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: YEG
Posts: 186
I am looking to book a trip to Athens next Summer/Fall. I am just in the planning stages now. I am hoping to book 3 seats in F. I realize this may be tough/impossible. However, seat problem aside, is it possible to route through Asia to get to Athens? I am looking at departing from the West Coast somewhere (I am flexible). If I go LAX-NRT-IST-ATH with a stop less than 24 hours in Tokyo and return ATH-FRA-LAX, would this be 210k or 160k points?
Oct 4, 2017, 8:25 pm
#5111
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I am looking to book a trip to Athens next Summer/Fall. I am just in the planning stages now. I am hoping to book 3 seats in F. I realize this may be tough/impossible. However, seat problem aside, is it possible to route through Asia to get to Athens? I am looking at departing from the West Coast somewhere (I am flexible). If I go LAX-NRT-IST-ATH with a stop less than 24 hours in Tokyo and return ATH-FRA-LAX, would this be 210k or 160k points?
However, you can often route from NA to Asia via Europe (and pay for a NA-Asia award). This tends to work best with Southeast Asia due to MPM limitations (e.g. BKK, SIN).
Sample routing would be LAX-NRT-SINx-IST-ATHx-FRA/MUC/LHR-LAX
Oct 5, 2017, 2:26 pm
#5112
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: YEG
Posts: 25
Managed to book this:
YEG YYZ AC162 I
YYZ EWR AC7650 I
JFK BRU SN502 I STOP
BRU IST TK1938 I
IST HKT TK172 I DEST
HKT BKK TG218 X
BKK NRT TG640 I STOP
NRT YVR AC4 I
YVR YEG AC250 X
Air Travellers Security Charge (CA) $25.91
Canada Goods and Services Tax (GST/HST #10009-2287 RT0001) (XG) $1.50
Combined taxes, fees, charges and surcharges, see fare calculation below (XT) $193.55
Total in Canadian dollars : 220.96
155,000 miles per person
Oct 5, 2017, 5:16 pm
#5113
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: YEG
Posts: 186
Generally speaking, you cannot route from NA to Europe via Asia.
However, you can often route from NA to Asia via Europe (and pay for a NA-Asia award). This tends to work best with Southeast Asia due to MPM limitations (e.g. BKK, SIN).
Sample routing would be LAX-NRT-SINx-IST-ATHx-FRA/MUC/LHR-LAX
However, you can often route from NA to Asia via Europe (and pay for a NA-Asia award). This tends to work best with Southeast Asia due to MPM limitations (e.g. BKK, SIN).
Sample routing would be LAX-NRT-SINx-IST-ATHx-FRA/MUC/LHR-LAX
Oct 5, 2017, 5:47 pm
#5114
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If the MPM for LAX-ATH indeed is that generous, but may be able to get it ticketed; for the most part I've only seen both a TATL and TPAC routing being valid for destinations such as Azerbaijan (technically still Europe 2) etc.