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Old Mar 2, 2016, 12:16 pm
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No YQ airlines/routes/countries

NZ, CM, AV, O6, NH, SQ, ET

UA:

All flights except from U.S to: ICN

AC:

Within North America

TPAC flights originated from Canada to:
Japan(NRT,HND,KIX), Australia(SYD,BNE)

For TPAC arriving to Canada:
YQ-free countries/cities (see below)
ex-Australia flights (SYD, BNE)

All TATL flights

List of YQ-free cities/countries:

Hong Kong (depart only)
Brazil (depart only)
Philippines (depart only)
Thailand (depart only)
South Korea (depart only)

For Japan:
Departing flights base on J class direct fights from NRT
Example: NRT-ZRH on LX, NRT-FRA on LH

No YQ: UA, AC, AI, NZ, ET, LO, ZH

Less then 20 Euros YQ: LH, SK, CA, OZ, BR, SQ, LX, TK

Greater than 20 Euros YQ: TG (94 Euros)

NH has less than 20 Euros YQ for most of it's destination

Arriving flights base on J class direct fights to NRT
Example: ZRH- NRT on LX, FRA-NRT on LH

No YQ: UA, AC, TG, NZ, OZ

Less than 20 Euros YQ: BR (14 Euros)

20 - 100 Euros YQ: SQ (20 Euros SIN-NRT, 26 Euros LAX-NRT), ET(95 Euros), CA (41 Euros), ZH (40 Euros)

Greater than 100 Euros: LH (246 Euros), AI (185 Euros), LO (177 Euros), SK (135 Euros), LX(262 Euros), TK (130 Euros)

Again, NH has less than 20 Euros YQ for flights arriving to NRT.


YQ + Fee for award flights, feel free to add more on the list (at the end of it) if you have made a recent redemption.

TK SFO-IST-TLV 237,90 Euro
LH SFO-FRA-TLV 376,76 Euro
UA&LH SFO-FRA(UA)-TLV(LH) 104,77 Euro
SIN-FRA (SQ) Y - 181,75 Euro
SIN-DEL(AI)-FRA(LH) J - 257,15 Euro
HKG-PEK-FRA (CA) J - 149,72 Euro
TPE-IST-FRA (TK) Y - 149,75 Euro
TPE-PEK-FRA (CA) J - 149,43 Euro
YYZ-SFO(AC)-TPE (UA) Y - 159,28 Euro
YYZ-PVG(AC)-TPE (BR) Y - 191,24 Euro
YYZ-PVG(AC)-TPE (BR) J - 227,41 Euro
FRA-YUL (AC) Y - 104,00 Euro
FRA-LHR(LH)-YUL (AC) Y - 182,00 Euro
FRA-YYZ-YUL (AC) Y - 142,99 Euro
FRA-LHR(LH)-YUL(AC) J - 187,00 Euro
BKK-HND (TG) Y - 111 Euros
CDG-PEK (CA) Y- 207,88 EUROS
CDG-PEK (CA) J - 298,44 EUROS
CDG-FRA-PEK (LH) Y - 209,13 EUROS
CDG-ICN-PEK (OZ) Y - 264,52 EUROS
CDG-ICN-PEK (OZ) J - 305,04 EUROS
CDG-TPE (BR) Y - 164,31 EUROS
CDG-TPE (BR) J - 204,90 EUROS
CDG-PVG-TPE (CA) Y - 189,99 EUROS
CDG-ICN(OZ)-TPE(TG) - 301,70 EUROS
FRA-MUC-YUL J (LH) - 355,90 Euros
FRA-CDG(LH)-YUL(AC) J - 170.00 Euros
AC Y: 188,37 Euro YYZ-PEK
AC J: 238,77 Euro YYZ-PEK
UA Y: 79,74 Euro YYZ-ORD-PEK
ATH-CAI-AUH (MS) Y - 148,07 EUROS
AKL-SIN (NZ) Y - 41,03 Euros
ORD-NRT (NH) Y,J,C - 44,17 Euros
ORD-NRT (UA) Y,J,C - 41,42 Euros
JFK - SIN- MEL (SQ) Y -789,00 Euros
ZRH - HKG (Y) LX - 260,06 EUR
ZRH-FRA-HKG (Y) LH - 281,33 EUR
NRT-ORD (Y) NH - 73,43 EUR
MNL-BKK-SIN (J) (TG) - 31,40 Euros
BKK-MNL (TG) (Y)- 84,76 Euros
MNL-SIN (SQ) (J) - 30,46 Euros
---2016----
HKG-FRA-BUD (LH) C - 114.24 Euros (all cost; one-way; as of 2016-Mar)
BKK-NRT (TG) J - 131.79 Euros
MIA-VIE-FRA (OS) C - 458.76 Euro*
* date change with same airline and route = 20 eur/pp
change route = 40 eur/pp (cancel and rebook)
same date but change to other airline = 40 eur/pp (cancel and rebook)
ARN-FRA-LAX (LH) C/F - 296.26 Euro (OW 276.26 YQ + 20 fee per person; booked in 2015)
YYC-DEN (UA) Y 101 euros with 20 booking fee
LIS-IST-GYD (TK) (J) 22k + 160 taxes one way [of these YR=98] [taxes were the same for LH+TP]
MNL-ADD-MXP (ET) (Y) - 11,47
MUC-CDG(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 210,05 Euro
MUC-LHR(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 249,80 Euro
MUC-HKG(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 334,08 Euro
MUC-IST(TK)-TPE(BR) (J) - 162,26 Euro
KIX-SIN-DPS J (SQ) - 95,23 Euro
NRT-SIN-DPS J (NH,SQ) - 93,45 Euro
YYZ-FRA-JNB Y (AC, SA) - 208,85 Euro
YYZ-FRA-JNB J (LH, SA) - 583,31 Euro
YUL-LAX-AKL J (AC, NZ) - 105,27 Euro
ICN-SIN-DPS Y (SQ) - 175,89 Euro
ICN-SIN-DPS J (SQ) - 200,08 Euro
YYZ-NRT Y (AC) - 57,21 Euros
PEK-YVR Y (AC) - 164,84 Euros
PEK-NRT-YVR Y, J (NH) - 181,26 Euros
DEL-YYZ - Y (AC) - 386,76 Euros
BNE-YVR - Y (AC) - 75,61 Euros
LCA-VIE-BKK-VIE-LCA J (OS) 580
YYZ-PVG - Y (AC) 182,83 Euros
YYZ-ORD-PVG - Y (UA) - 76,54 Euros
YVR-SFO-ICN - Y (UA) - 139,96 Euros
YVR-ICN - Y (AC) - 120,09 Euros
PVG-YYZ - Y (AC) 175,49 Euros
PVG-ORD-YYZ - Y (UA) - 51,45 Euros
CDG-MUC-HND - J (LH,NH) - 116,62 Euros
CDG-HND - J (NH) - 115,43 Euros
CMN-FRA-CDG - J (LH) - 189,00 Euros
ATH-FRA-RAK - Y (LH) - 161,16 Euros
ATH-FRA-RAK - J (LH) - 167,16 Euros
CDG-TPE-HKG - Y (BR) - 133,09 Euros
TPE-ICN - Y (OZ) - 46,00 Euros
YUL-ZRH-GVA - Y (LX) - 269,34 Euros
CDG-FRA-HND - J (LH,NH) - 160,65 Euros
CDG-MUC-HND - J (LH,NH) - 157,90 Euros
YUL-MUC-BKK - Y (LH,TG) - 344,40 Euros
YUL-IST-BKK - Y, J (TK) - 280,30 Euros
ADD-LAX - Y (ET) - 248,87 Euros
ADD-LHR-LAX - Y (ET, UA) - 169,36 Euros
ADD-IST-LAX - J (TK) - 291,38 Euros
TPE-IST-CDG - J (TK) - 218,91 Euros
TPE-SIN-CDG - Y (SQ) - 273,08 Euros
ICN-TPE-VIE - J (OZ,BR) - 52,94 Euros(total cost,flights in April 2017)
FRA-CPH - Y (LH) - 97,09
YYZ-LGA//JFK-JNB (Y) (AC,SA) - 288,62 Euros
YYZ-LGA//JFK-JNB (J) (AC,SA) - 332,00 Euros
YYZ-ADD-JNB (Y) (ET) - 302,79 Euros
YYZ-LHR-JNB (Y) (AC,SA) - 200,36 Euros
YYZ-LHR-JNB (J) (AC,SA) - 273,58 Euros
NRT-PEK-ADD (Y,J) (NH,ET) - 156,96 Euros
NRT-PVG-ADD (Y) (NH, ET) - 156,96 Euros
YYZ-LIM (Y) (AC) - 141,99 Euros
YYZ-SAL-LIM , Y (AV) - 72,03 Euros
YYZ-TPE-HKG (Y,J) (BR) - 78,89 Euros
YYZ-ORD-HKG (Y) (UA) - 99,61 Euros
YYZ-EWR-HKG (Y) (UA)- 99,61 Euros
ORD-CDG (Y) (UA) - 25,27 Euros
ORD-FRA-CDG (LH) - 373,00 Euros
GVA-FRA-LAX and return JFK-GVA (LH, LX) - 487,96 Euros
----------------2017------------------
GRU-FRA-TLL (F,J) (LH) - 103,60 Euros
YYZ-SFO (J) (AC) - 64,55 Euros
YVR-HKG (Y) (AC) - 83,46 Euros
HKG-ICN-OKA (Y) (OZ) - 54,47 Euros
CPH-PVG-AKL (J) (SK/NZ) - ~200
TXL-FRA-BKK-FRA-TXL (J) (LH/TG/TG/LH) - 252 Euros
SIN-HND (J) (SQ) - 42,88 Euros
ZRH-BKK-MEL (J) (TG) - 49.22
GVA-ZRH-YUL (J,Y) (LX) - 256,44
HKG-ICN (Y) (OZ) - 25.54
SIN-CPH (Y) (SQ) - 103,31
SIN-LHR-CPH (Y) (SQ,SK) - 103,31
FRA-CAI-SSH (C) (MS) - 177 EUR
FRA-IST-SSH (C) (TK) - 197 EUR
YYZ-DUB (J) (AC) - EUR68.11 (EUR48.11+EUR20 fee)
HKG-IST-GOT (J) (TK) - EUR110.71 (EUR90.71 + EUR20 fee; ticketed in Aug 2017; one-way)
SFO-TUS (Y) (UA) - EUR32,11 (EUR12,11 + EUR20 fee. Ticketed in Sep 2017; one way)
TUS-SFO (Y) (UA) - EUR31,85 (EUR11,85 + EUR20 fee. Ticketed in Sep 2017; one way)
TXL-IST-SIN/ BKK-ZUR-TXL (J) (TK/SQ/TG/LX) 231.74 + 20 fee
EWR-PDX (Y) (UA) - EURO 31.87
SIN-BKK-CDG (J) TG - 77,08
SIN-CDG (Y) SQ - 41,45
SIN-FRA-CDG (Y) LH - 252,39
SIN-IST (J) SQ - 41,53
SIN-IST (J) TK - 176,89
YUL-ZRH (J) - 360,72
----------------2018------------------
BKK-ARN-TLL (J) TG,SK - 92 (flights in 2019) online booking
BLZ-ADD-GRU (J) ET - 29.54 online
GRU-ZHR-LCY (J) LX- 30 online
YUL-LYS-VIE / VIE-GVA-YUL (J); 197 online (AC/OS)
HKG-IST-HEL (Y one-way on TK; flights in 2019) - 40,000miles plus EUR81.33, online booking (post #1635)
SIN-SFO (J) SQ - 43.6 online booking
----------------2019------------------
CPH-LIS-GIG (J) TP (46.5) online
BKK-PVG (J) TG - 64.67 online
LAX-ARN-HEL (J) SK - 12.50 online
CPH-LIS (Y) TP - (36,70) online
LAX-HND-LHR (F) NH - (151) online (flight in Apr2020)
HKG-TPE (J) BR (53.28) online (redemption in Aug 2019)
EZE-GRU (J) ET 61.60 online
EZE-GRU (J) TK 61.60 online
VIE-BKK-TPE-SFO (J) BR - 240.00 (YQ) + 60.99 (Taxes etc.) online (flight in summer 2020)
LAX-HND-LHR (F) NH - 135.82 (YQ) + 15.97 (Taxes etc.) online (flight in fall 2020)
LHR-HND-LAX (F) NH Round-Trip + 569.23 online pre-devaluation
AC CDG-YYZ-YYJ Euro 98.85 (Eco, 35k miles, oneway, booked Oct 2021, inlcudes Euro 36.- YQ)
SQ+TK REP-SIN-IST-NCE Euro 98.46 (Eco, 60k miles, oneway, booked Feb 2022 - inlcudes Euro 61.31 YR)
SQ+TK REP-SIN-IST-NCE Euro 102.18 (Eco, 60k miles, oneway, booked March 2022 - includes Euro 63.36 YR plus another 0.44 YR)
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Please report your Star Alliance award redemption experiences

Old Mar 20, 2024, 10:45 pm
  #2866  
 
Join Date: Mar 2019
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Old Mar 26, 2024, 2:27 pm
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Join Date: Oct 2013
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Who sets the taxes? The partner airline? I'm hearing conflicting reports about who is to blame for some airlines being extortionate on award bookings and others (often on the same route) not...

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Old Mar 26, 2024, 3:05 pm
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Join Date: Mar 2019
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Originally Posted by eshroom
Who sets the taxes? The partner airline? I'm hearing conflicting reports about who to blame for some airlines being extortionate on award bookings and other (often on the same route) not...
The operating airline sets the fuel surcharges while legitimate taxes and charges (departure taxes and airport charges for example) gets set by countries and airports. Usually the outrageous part of taxes and fees is set by the operating airline in the form of fuel surcharges.
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Old Apr 4, 2024, 5:51 pm
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Toronto
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Has anyone received this error when redeeming on A3 website? What did you do next?
I called/twittered A3 to ask them to book it over the phone. They insist to charge me the booking fee despite sending these screenshots proving the IT glitch. The route is HKG-IST-IAD on TK if it makes any difference. Thanks
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Old Apr 5, 2024, 5:00 am
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Just booked MXP-IST-UGC with TK - one way Business class for 55k + 190 EUR/person.

Would have loved to find availability in economy (DUB, LON or also from other European airports) but at the end of July that was impossible...
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Old Apr 15, 2024, 10:04 pm
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Join Date: Nov 2013
Programs: CX,A3, TK, AZ,KQ
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Any luck in availability of First Class seats with LX, LH, SQ from Asia to Europe or the other way round? Unfortunately I can't find anything through Aegean Airlines website...
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Old Apr 15, 2024, 10:10 pm
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Join Date: Mar 2019
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Originally Posted by fedeflyer
Any luck in availability of First Class seats with LX, LH, SQ from Asia to Europe or the other way round? Unfortunately I can't find anything through Aegean Airlines website...
From those 3 LH is the only one that releases F space to partners. LX hasn't for a long time and are defensive about it. Getting any premium SQ redemptions outside intra Asia flights is near impossible.
There have been reports that LH has been tightening F seat release windows for partners. In other words it might only open seats closer to departure then the historic 14 days.
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Old Apr 15, 2024, 10:49 pm
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Join Date: Nov 2013
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Originally Posted by NextWhiteDeath
From those 3 LH is the only one that releases F space to partners. LX hasn't for a long time and are defensive about it. Getting any premium SQ redemptions outside intra Asia flights is near impossible.
There have been reports that LH has been tightening F seat release windows for partners. In other words it might only open seats closer to departure then the historic 14 days.
Thanks for that ! I'll try to give them a call... might be I have more luck! Great to know there's some SQ redemptions available within Asia...that could be a second choice !
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Old Apr 16, 2024, 1:11 pm
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Join Date: Nov 2017
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FYI booked some functional awards with A3 with the usual available carriers:
BRU-WAW-DEL in business (LOT) for 55K and 87.03

BOM-ADD-BRU in business (ET) for 55K and 34.05

Got 11h transit in ADD but free hotel is offered
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Old Apr 17, 2024, 3:28 am
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MXP-DEL-MEL J AI €46 and 75k
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Old Apr 17, 2024, 3:29 am
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Originally Posted by NextWhiteDeath
The operating airline sets the fuel surcharges while legitimate taxes and charges (departure taxes and airport charges for example) gets set by countries and airports. Usually the outrageous part of taxes and fees is set by the operating airline in the form of fuel surcharges.
If that is the case, why can do prices sometime vary hugely from one program to another? E.g. LH redemptions using UA miles vs A3 miles.
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Old Apr 17, 2024, 10:07 am
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Originally Posted by eshroom
If that is the case, why can do prices sometime vary hugely from one program to another? E.g. LH redemptions using UA miles vs A3 miles.
Because a handful of ffp's don't pass on fuel surcharges ​​​​​​.
United happens to be probably the best-known example of such a ffp.
Here are a few search results
Also... You could avoid paying them by flying out of a country, that prohibits them.
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Old Apr 18, 2024, 8:32 am
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Join Date: Mar 2017
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Originally Posted by fedeflyer
Any luck in availability of First Class seats with LX, LH, SQ from Asia to Europe or the other way round? Unfortunately I can't find anything through Aegean Airlines website...
Yes - just flew on LH PVG-FRA-LHR two weeks ago, with PVG-FRA in F; The itinerary cost 90k miles + c.322 EUR

A few observations:
- redemption availability were only released 3-4 days prior to departure; When I booked the flight there were still 3 revenue seats available in F in PVG-FRA
- Best availability is likely to be from PVG, PEK or ICN (and these are good options since they are daytime flights which means you get to enjoy the F class experience a bit more I think)
- There is some weird married segment logic - on the day that I searched, HKG-FRA-IST is available (with HKG-FRA in F) but neither HKG-FRA nor HKG-FRA-LHR is available
- [I think this is well-reported but just as a reminder] There is quite a lot of fake LH F class availability on the A3 website, on flights that are operated by the LH A343 or B744, so make sure you double check the operating aircraft
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Old Apr 18, 2024, 1:12 pm
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Join Date: Dec 2015
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Booked for 158€ and 32.5K NRT SIN via CGK with NH and SQ

Needed to go their at this date so perfect for me
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Old Apr 18, 2024, 5:25 pm
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Originally Posted by ronald55
Yes - just flew on LH PVG-FRA-LHR two weeks ago, with PVG-FRA in F; The itinerary cost 90k miles + c.322 EUR
This is very strange.... F on pvg-fra means the other segment was not in F, so a mixed cabin award, which with Aegean's Miles&Bonus doesn't just cost as many miles as F, but rather the miles for both flights (so an F+C redemption will cost 90k+25k = 115k miles). So how did this happen?
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