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Old Sep 19, 2019, 1:54 am
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Short version of what Accor has told us about the new ALL "suite night upgrades" (SNUs):
"On reaching Platinum status, receive 2 Suite Night Upgrades. Booked in advance, guaranteed.

Earn a third Suite Night Upgrade at 18,000 Status points, and then an additional one every 4,000 Status points. Up to 12 a year."
Longer version, from the T&C, section 9.2: available in English here.
(Copied December 6 2019. Edited very gently for length -- e.g. removing references to paragraphs containing Accor's definition of "Platinum" -- and format.)
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Definition
A Suite Night Upgrade is a benefit reserved exclusively for Members who have Platinum status and above. It enables them, at certain participating hotels belonging to the Accor Group, to spend the night in a "suite" for the price of a "room" selected by the Member when making a pre-confirmed booking.

Hotels Offering Suite Night Upgrades
Members can only use their Suite Night Upgrade in Accor Group hotels offering this benefit. The list of participating brands and non-participating hotels is available on the Benefits and Statuses page by following the loyalty programme link. Please note that this list is more restrictive than the list of brands participating in the Programme.

In order to offer this benefit, a hotel must have both rooms and “suites”, or simply suites. Hotels solely offering other types of accommodation (lodges, villas, etc.) do not accept Suite Night Upgrades.

Obtaining a Suite Night Upgrade
On reaching or obtaining Platinum status [...] Members receive two (2) Suite Night Upgrades are credited to their account. When a Platinum Member has earned 18,000 Status Points, a third Suite Night Upgrade is then credited to the account. The Member receives an additional Suite Night Upgrade each time an additional 4,000 Status Points have been earned, for example, a fourth Suite Night Upgrade on reaching 22,000 Status Points, a fifth on reaching 26,000 Status Points and so on, up to a maximum of twelve (12) Suite Night Upgrades per calendar year.

A Suite Night Upgrade is valid for one (1) night only. The Member may use several Suite Night Upgrades when staying for several consecutive nights, if he or she has enough Suite Night Upgrades having already been credited in the account. Each Suite Night Upgrade is valid until 31st December of the year following its date of issue (calendar year N+1). No validity extension will be granted either before or after a Suite Night Upgrade’s expiry date.

Suite Night Upgrades are credited exclusively to the Member’s account, and can be viewed online via the Website and the Accor All app. No printed Suite Night Upgrades will be issued, nor can Suite Night Upgrades be sent out via email. However, Members will receive an email notification whenever a Suite Night Upgrade they have earned has been credited to their account.

Using Suite Night Upgrades
Members who wish to use one or several Suite Night Upgrade(s) during their stay must pre-book prior to the stay. Bookings must be made by calling an Accor Booking Office or by calling one of a participating hotel offering Suite Night Upgrades directly, except for Fairmont, Raffles and Swissôtel hotels. For these three brands, bookings must be made via the Accor Booking Office. The Suite Night Upgrade must be valid on the dates of stay booked.

Suite Night Upgrades are for personal use only and are non-exchangeable, non-refundable and non-transferable. They can only be used by the Member whose name is printed on the membership card. The Member must be present during the stay and must themselves be staying in the suite that has been booked. The Member may book several rooms and/or suites when making the booking, but only one Suite Night Upgrade will be authorised per night and for the suite in which the Member is staying.

If Members wish to stay for several nights but only have one (1) Suite Night Upgrade, they may nonetheless stay in the suite for the duration of the booked stay. In that case, they will use their Suite Night Upgrade for one night but will have to pay the full undiscounted price for the suite for the other nights of the stay. If the Members do not wish to book the Suite at the advertised rate, they will need to make another booking for the other nights of the stay, choosing a different type of room, which would mean changing rooms during the stay.

For bookings covering several consecutive days at a constant rate, the Suite Night Upgrade will apply to the first night of the stay by default. For bookings covering several consecutive days at a variable rate (i.e., the rate is different each night), the Suite Night Upgrade will apply to the most expensive eligible night by default. Subject to availability at the time of booking, the customer care advisor may offer the Member different types of suites, corresponding to suites paired with different types of rooms, along with their associated rates.

The use of Suite Night Upgrades is subject to the same blackout dates as the Programme’s room availability guarantee. The official calendar of dates on which the availability guarantee does not apply is regularly updated and displayed for Members on the all.accor.com website. It is up to Members to take note of these dates before booking a stay for which they require an availability guarantee (See the dates here).
Non-participating hotels
See list: https://all.accor.com/loyalty-program/legal/terms-and-conditions/pdf-snu.en.pdf

Eligible rooms
Eligible rooms vary by hotel. Certain suites are always excluded, such as Presidential suites and VIP suites.

Each type of room eligible for this benefit is paired with a specific type of suite at each hotel offering the benefit. The use of Suite Night Upgrades is subject to the suite’s availability at the time of booking.

Eligible Booking Channels
In order to be considered eligible, stays must be booked at eligible rates by calling the Accor Booking Office or participating hotels. Stays booked via other channels will not be eligible for this offer, including those booked via:
- travel agencies using a GDS (Global Distribution System)
- stays booked via a reseller, tour operator or third-party online travel agent (such as Expedia.com, booking.com, etc.)

Eligible Rates
Eligible rates include all standard rates (including the ALL - Accor Live Limitless and AccorPlus Member rate) and all promotional rates except the following:
- Excluded rates mentioned in Article 7.2 “Rates Eligible to Earn Points” of the General Conditions of Membership;
- Family offers;
- Package rates;
- Day Use Rates;
- Corporate Rates;
- Ibis Business and Accor Business Plus membership card rates

Terms of Cancellation and Changes
The usual terms and conditions of sale apply to bookings made with a Suite Night Upgrade. These conditions determine the ability or not to change or cancel a booking free of charge. If a pre-booked stay is cancelled prior to the stay and according to the terms laid down in the terms and conditions of sale accepted when making the booking, the conditions of sale govern the decision as to whether the cost of the booking should be reimbursed.
However, if a Member makes a booking using one or several Suite Night Upgrades but cancels the booking prior to the stay, the Suite Night Upgrades will be recredited to the account within a maximum of seven (7) days. No changes can be made to the night to which the Suite Night Upgrade applies. The only change that can be made by telephone once a Suite Night Upgrade has been booked is adding additional options (such as breakfast), paid for with cash.

The Suite Night Upgrade will not be refunded to Members in the event of a no-show on the booked day or early check-out.

Non-Combinable Benefits
Suite Night Upgrades cannot be combined with:
- The use of Rewards Points when booking,
- The use of a Stay Plus night, a benefit awarded to members of the Accor Plus membership programme,
- Upgrades subject to availability awarded to Gold status and higher.

Member Responsibilities
Accor reserves the right to immediately void any Suite Night Upgrade that has been sold or transferred to a user other than the Member for whom it was originally intended or that is deemed to have been fraudulently acquired.
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Old Feb 7, 2020, 10:02 am
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Originally Posted by AccorHotels Concierge
Could you kindly MP me with your membership details so that we check your request and its processing?
Thank you. Done, and I do appreciate your asssistance.

That said, this really is the kind of simple thing that should have just worked properly -- or, failing that, been quick and easy for customer care to sort out at the first, second or third time of asking.

Is there anyone here who does not doubt my sanity for chasing an SNU in the first place?
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Old Feb 7, 2020, 11:38 am
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Originally Posted by IMH
Thank you. Done, and I do appreciate your asssistance.

That said, this really is the kind of simple thing that should have just worked properly -- or, failing that, been quick and easy for customer care to sort out at the first, second or third time of asking.

Is there anyone here who does not doubt my sanity for chasing an SNU in the first place?
Dear IMH,
Thank you for your message.
We will raise the topic again with the teams we notified.

Thanks again for your patience,

With my best regards,
Amy
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Old Feb 7, 2020, 10:56 pm
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The missing SNU was posted minutes after AccorHotels Concierge received my message.

Many thanks for that, Amy.
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Old Feb 14, 2020, 3:19 pm
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The list of exclusions has been again updated on 12/02.
https://all.accor.com/loyalty-progra...pdf-snu.en.pdf

Compared to the 29/01version,
have been removed from the exclusion list :
- Mövenpick Yanbu (Saudi Arabia)
- Mövenpick BDMS Wellness Resort Bangkok (Thailand)
- Pullman Liverpool (UK)

have been added to the exclusion list :
- SLS Baha Mar (Bahamas)
- SLS Beverly Hills (USA)
- SLS Brickell (USA)
- SLS LUX Brickell (USA)
- Mövenpick Resort Waverly Phu Quoc (Vietnam)
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Old Feb 15, 2020, 2:28 am
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Originally Posted by wkndtraveler
The reason given is that there isn't a tool that would allow hotels to modificate existing reservations by adding SNU upgrades. I agree, Accor should develop their system further to make it more user friendly.
I just read this thread. I also wanted to use my SNU's for an existing booking. First contacted customer service by email, got a general marketing reply about SNU without any indication how to use them. Then I contacted the hotel (Fairmont Empress, Victoria). Got reply that I should contact central reservations by email. The email provided bounced, but in the bounced back message the new email address was mentioned. That worked, sent the email request a week ago, now waiting for reply. But probably with the answer I read in the thread: cancel and re-book. Very cumbersome and time consuming.
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Old Feb 24, 2020, 1:33 am
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Have attempted to redeem my SNU twice now, one an M Gallery property and one a Sofitel property.
The M Gallery (Melbourne) property said that I could not use the SNU as i had booked a flexible rate and to use it, i would need to change to a non-flexible rate!
The Sofitel (Wellington) property said that I could not use the SNU as I had booked a non-flexible rate and to be able to use it, i would need to change to a flexible rate!

Reading this thread, i dont ever think ill be able to redeem my SNU's
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Old Feb 24, 2020, 7:23 pm
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Originally Posted by MRC
I just read this thread. I also wanted to use my SNU's for an existing booking. First contacted customer service by email, got a general marketing reply about SNU without any indication how to use them. Then I contacted the hotel (Fairmont Empress, Victoria). Got reply that I should contact central reservations by email. The email provided bounced, but in the bounced back message the new email address was mentioned. That worked, sent the email request a week ago, now waiting for reply. But probably with the answer I read in the thread: cancel and re-book. Very cumbersome and time consuming.
edit: after more than 2 weeks still no response from customer service
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Old Feb 28, 2020, 4:54 am
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As I am far from certain that I will ever use ANY of my SNUs, and am certainly in no hurry to try to do so, I went through "normal" (?) channels to claim my missing one (arising from Accor's belated crediting of my December 2019 stay). I emailed Customer Care on January 12, received a response from them on January 29 telling me my request had been forwarded to the technical team, and on February 25 had a response from them advising me that the missing SNU had been credited--which, upon checking, I confirmed was indeed the case!
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Old Mar 10, 2020, 5:21 pm
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You cant apply a SNU to a Accor Plus redemption....3/3 failures in attempting to use the SNU.
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Old Mar 10, 2020, 11:53 pm
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Originally Posted by kniesel
You cant apply a SNU to a Accor Plus redemption....3/3 failures in attempting to use the SNU.
To be fair, that is stated explicitly as ineligible in the T and Cs.. most of the issues experienced have been around trying to get SNUs applied even when eligible under the T and Cs.

Non-Combinable Benefits
Suite Night Upgrades cannot be combined with:
- The use of Rewards Points when booking,
- The use of a Stay Plus night, a benefit awarded to members of the Accor Plus
membership programme
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Old Mar 11, 2020, 10:28 pm
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Originally Posted by znsm
To be fair, that is stated explicitly as ineligible in the T and Cs.. most of the issues experienced have been around trying to get SNUs applied even when eligible under the T and Cs.
Could you link me to the T&C's? Would be interested in reading them to find out how I can possible use them.
Thanks
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Old Mar 11, 2020, 11:57 pm
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Originally Posted by kniesel
Could you link me to the T&C's? Would be interested in reading them to find out how I can possible use them.
Thanks
Sure, it's section 9.3 here https://all.accor.com/loyalty-progra...ditions-en.pdf
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Old May 28, 2020, 1:21 pm
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Does anybody know if SNU's can be applied upon arrival during checking in?
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Old May 28, 2020, 1:37 pm
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Originally Posted by Synthesis
Does anybody know if SNU's can be applied upon arrival during checking in?
You cannot. The membership T and Cs (front page of all.accor.com footer) say

Members who wish to use one or several Suite Night Upgrade(s) during their stay must pre-
book prior to the stay.
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Old May 29, 2020, 12:08 am
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Originally Posted by Synthesis
Does anybody know if SNU's can be applied upon arrival during checking in?
Originally Posted by znsm
You cannot. The membership T and Cs (front page of all.accor.com footer) say

Members who wish to use one or several Suite Night Upgrade(s) during their stay must pre-
book prior to the stay.
and you need to book contacting the hotel or the call center. You cannot do it yet on website/apps.
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