Originally Posted by Repooc17

50% PQM/0.5 PQS? Middle seat?

I pay the cost to get out of N fares (E fares on DL, X fares on AS, B fares on AA) - usually $30 each way for flights across the country. PP alone is worth the price of admission, but even with no potential for upgrades, being near the front of the plane (e.g. E+) would allow me to get to my destination or back home faster.

Originally Posted by spin88

I just went to book a vacation trip to Europe (to see part of the WWC), open jaw flights (into CDG, out of BCN) and bouncing between what little decent Y (not on a 777 at 10x, and avoiding the 787 if possible) and just getting PE, I found a decent routing on LH out (on the A388) and back on UA (764). Tickets were $1121 each, so not cheap. But when I went to book on LH, they disclosed that it was their "economy light" fare. Given LH does not do seat assignments anyway, and I get a baggage waiver, that is not an issue, so I booked. No disclosure what so ever that the UA leg would be "BE". None at all. All LH told me was that it was a W, which is not a BE fare.

Anyway, when I went to import into my UA account to get seats it says "BE". So I cancelled.

LH and LH want $2249 for regular Y That his twice the price.

So what is the outcome? Well I booked AF PE for $2100/ticket.

So stupid BE rules, caused this elite to go with another carrier to the tune of $8K+, vs giving UA/LH $4400, which is a decent yield in that market.

Basically UA has now made it impossible for me to fly using my elite benefits on international flights, unless I pay WAY MORE. Good example of why I don't really value any status on UA at this point.