Could be if one was flying over for that. But we are flying over TPAC on KE, Asia to Europe on SQ, and then LH back to the states 10 days before Oktoberfest starts. Just like everyone else LH is cutting back on awards. I'm counting us lucky for getting a flight only a day before what we had hoped for, not to mention being able to stay in the Terminal until almost 2pm. But I can see how things are going, and I'm not very hopeful about what will be possible if we were to get another MM card a year from now expecting to book for 2018.