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Old Jul 11, 2012 | 9:56 pm
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TSORon
 
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Originally Posted by GaryD
Here they are again, right in the very post I linked to:http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/18894842-post54.html
So, you use the name bubbaloop here as well, since that is who's credentials I am questioning. Interesting, I believe that is a TOS violation, but I'll leave that determination up to the mods.


Originally Posted by GaryD
Did I suggest I haven't read the whole thread? I have.

Now, again, to the question you seem to be unable to answer:
Since I seem to miss "quite a bit" of your information, could you please point me exactly to the part in which a test strip (not an electronic "sniffer" like the one you showed here, which, by the way, also does not detect peroxides) waved above a solution is capable of detecting peroxides.
Actually they can detect peroxide vapors, they need only be programed to do so.

As for the rest, read the other thread started by bubba. You indeed have missed quite a bit, and I’m reasonably certain that your knowledge even given your profession, is not universally comprehensive. No one’s is.

Originally Posted by GaryD
There appears to be no evidence that those test strips can detect peroxides, among the documents that you linked to. Just this morning, in another thread in this forum, you repeated your claim that "they detect chemicals," two days after being asked to substantiate that.

Well, I don't believe it, thanks to your tactics.
Test strips detect chemicals, right? Liquids have vapors (generally speaking of course), right? And you are of the opinion that a test strip cannot be made to detect the chemicals in those vapors? Riiiight.

My tactics have nothing to do with the facts. As a “scientist” you should know this. OTOH, opinions and blind intentional ignorance can have a significant effect on one’s perception the facts can’t they. You might want to explore that a bit. Scientists are supposed to be objective, and tactics have nothing to do with that objectivity.

Originally Posted by ratherhike
There may be another possibility. Maybe the rules aren't that clear. If a private company produced a product that every single minute of every day customers used incorrectly, do you think that would assume a: they are stupid, b: they are purposely using it wrong, or c: we need to rewrite the directions for use
Interesting perspective, I like it! But to apply that form of thinking, one must broaden the question. How many people misuse household chemicals, prescription drugs, firearms, gasoline, and even their own dishwashers? Many. All of those products come with use warnings, instructions, sometimes very lengthy instructions and warnings. Again, many people misuse them. So, to quote you “a: they are stupid, b: they are purposely using it wrong, or c: we need to rewrite the directions for use”.

Think about how many lawyers, product experts, and more lawyers review the instructions and warnings on any form of common household cleaner. How often do you think those instructions and warnings are revised? Yet people still misuse them. So far it sounds like “A” is the clear winner now doesn’t it. Just how plain, obvious, in your face, must the instructions be for people to follow them? No, rewriting them is just not the answer. Reading them, following them, knowing them, well that sounds like a better plan. But I like your thinking anyway.

I am more for people taking responsibility for their own actions. Stop blaming others for their mistakes, for their own lack of judgment, for their own intentional ignorance. People here blame the TSA for so very much, when in fact it is their own failures that cause the problems. The rules are there, in written form, on the internet, and even in the PA announcements, at every airport I have ever been to. Yet as I stand on the checkpoint and watch the traffic flowing I can see the people who have ignored all those chances to learn and play by the rules. This is not TSA’s responsibility. Its each individual passengers responsibility. It’s a very simple concept, one that just does not get through to the vast majority of the posters here. It’s a sad truth.
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