Originally Posted by
TSORon
Actually, I read what was written and filtered the bias and lack of specific knowledge about process. I don’t believe I criticized anything, I only pointed out the factual errors. By what you have written it is obvious to me that you do seriously lack knowledge about what was going on.
Here is the meat of the OP.
Originally Posted by
ScatterX
TSA came along for the gate checks. This gate had an area that was segregated for inspections. In this case, they were pulling people out of line for thorough pat-downs.
After the pat-downs, they
forced people to stay within this segregated area.
One person tried to leave and was coerced by TSA to stay withing the inspection area. Since the flight wasn't ready to leave (about 10 min.), these people, IMO, were being detained unlawfully by TSA. FWIW, there was no LEO in sight.
Please highlight the factual errors in my post.
Was it the fact I was in Denver?
How about that TSA was there performing gate checks (note the little "g" and the little "c" with no reference to whatever you might define a gate check to be)?
How about the fact that there was a segregated area?
How about the fact that TSA pulled people out of line and was giving them pat-downs?
How about the fact that they were not allowed to leave after the pat-down?
Everything after that is my opinion.
Please do tell where my bias has colored these events to the point where they are factually inaccurate.
After reading your posts, this is the best I can do to address your superior knowledge of an event you did not witness.
Originally Posted by
ScatterX
TSA came along for TO DO SOMETHING. This gate had an area that was segregated for inspections. In this case, they were pulling people out of line for thorough BODY RUBBING. After the BODY RUBBING, they WOULD NOT ALLOW people to LEAVE this segregated area. One person tried to leave and was coerced by TSA to stay withing the inspection area. Since the flight wasn't ready to leave (about 10 min.), these people, IMO, were being detained unlawfully by TSA. FWIW, there was no LEO in sight.
Originally Posted by
TSORon
Given the obvious mischaracterization of the events...
Again, please let me know how you determined that an event you did not witness is OBVIOUSLY mischaracterized.
Originally Posted by
TSORon
You are assuming they are being detained.
Yes, I am assuming they were being detained. That's the point. I base this on the fact that they were told they could not go anywhere and they stayed where they were.
Originally Posted by
TSORon
Was anyone holding them in place physically? Was there a threat of some kind to ensure compliance?
Originally Posted by
TSORon
I can see where it might precipitate a LEO response, and even more wasted time on your part, but I can’t foresee anything more significant happening.
There was nothing physically holding them and I have no idea if any threat was made or not. IANAL, but neither of these things are necessary for detainment. The threat of calling a LEO is sufficient for me, but YMMV.
Originally Posted by
TSORon
Then it was not gate screening.
Really? I called it a gate check, you called it screening. You win the Nobel prize for semantics. Happy?
Originally Posted by
TSORon
A 747-400 can carry quite a few people, and it may take more than an hour to board the entire flight. Starting the gate screening a bit early lessens the pressure on the gate agents to meet their designated departure time.
Originally Posted by
TSORon
A reasonable assumption. In large airports gate screening can take quite a bit of time, so beginning just a bit early is one way of ensuring that the flight is not late for its departure time. But I have not seen or heard any reports of gate screening causing a flight to be delayed. Many things can cause a flight to become late, and we have specifically designed the program to prevent screening from becoming one of them.