Originally Posted by nova08

12 F seats on 738's is pretty pathetic if you ask me, E+ or not.

This goes in line with my belief that post merger if you don't fly 100k each year your liklihood of receiving a complimentary upgrade will be so low it won't even be worth considering it a benefit.

Originally Posted by reinballe

Will E+ seats on COs planes be good news... For domestic flights... I think the answer will depend on "where" these are installed.

If the addition of E+ seats reduces the number of seats in F... it will mean fewer upgrades. That would be bad news IMO.

Is it realistic that E+ seats would be added without removing F seats?
I have my doubts when I look at the ratio of Y seats to F seats on CO planes and compare them to those of similar sized UA planes.

COs ratio of Y seats to F seats on the 737-7, 737-8 and 737-9 ranges between: 6.6 - 9.33.
UAs ratio of Y seats to F seats on (similar sized) A320 ranges between 10.5 - 11.

This makes me wonder what we should wish for. Perhaps the the relevant question might be... Which of the two alternatives do you prefer?

A) 2 segments in E+ and 1 in First
B) 1 segment in ELR and 2 in First

On planes configured for international routes... there is not doubt in my mind that E+ is great. (Because there are no complementary upgrades to BF)... So I hope to see E+ on all International flights... For domestic flights... My top priority will be to keep then number of F seats intact on COs planes.

Note: The ratio on UA bigger planes is much better... According to seatguru.com (which I used to compute all these ratios) the domestic 767 tops with an impressive 6.17 ratio.
The worst Y/F ratio are for COs 737-5 and UAs A319: 13.25 and 14 respectively. (Avoid this equipment if you are hoping for an upgrade).