Eligible velocity sectors
Sep 24, 2015, 5:18 am
#18
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: New Zealand
Programs: NZ Elite, KQ Gold, Accor Gold, IHG Gold, Choice Gold
Posts: 675
Apologies if this has been asked before; I've had a bit of a search and turned up nothing.
I'm currently VA Silver with 260 status credits and two eligible sectors. I have existing bookings on VA that will give me another 240 status credits and three eligible sectors before the end of the calendar year. I started crediting flights to VA in about February, so will hit Gold in plenty of time.
That was all reasonably finely planned.
Except today I've found I have a business trip to Singapore in November (flying Singapire Airlines J). Now, I could credit those to NZ, but given NZ's programme is a bit rubbish when it comes to crediting other airlines (value wise) it makes far more sense to credit to VA.
But here's my problem. The flights to Singapore will mean I have significantly more VA Status Credits than 260 by the time I get my next two eligible sectors. Assuming I'm not able to hit Platinum before February, what will happen to my "excess" status credits I earn before I get my two eligible sectors and hit Gold? Ideally they'll roll over and be available to help me requalify the following year, but I haven't seen anything to confirm that.
Hope that's not too confusing; I'd appreciate anyone's thoughts or experiences.
I'm currently VA Silver with 260 status credits and two eligible sectors. I have existing bookings on VA that will give me another 240 status credits and three eligible sectors before the end of the calendar year. I started crediting flights to VA in about February, so will hit Gold in plenty of time.
That was all reasonably finely planned.
Except today I've found I have a business trip to Singapore in November (flying Singapire Airlines J). Now, I could credit those to NZ, but given NZ's programme is a bit rubbish when it comes to crediting other airlines (value wise) it makes far more sense to credit to VA.
But here's my problem. The flights to Singapore will mean I have significantly more VA Status Credits than 260 by the time I get my next two eligible sectors. Assuming I'm not able to hit Platinum before February, what will happen to my "excess" status credits I earn before I get my two eligible sectors and hit Gold? Ideally they'll roll over and be available to help me requalify the following year, but I haven't seen anything to confirm that.
Hope that's not too confusing; I'd appreciate anyone's thoughts or experiences.
Sep 24, 2015, 4:32 pm
#19
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Excess SC's are only useful for qualifying a higher level, or if WP, gifting SG/WP status to others.
SC's earned are valid for 12 months to the day.
To upgrade to gold status you need 500 SC's earned within the prior 365 days including earning on at least 4 VA marketed flight segments.
On the date that happens, you become SG for 12 months (+ 1 review month).
Any SC's earned from that date and 365 days hence go towards re-qualification.
SC's earned over 500 at time of SG qualification will also be used for the daily calculation of Platinum qualification.
e.g. Earn 200 SC's with 2 flights in May, then earn 200 SC's with 2 flights in July. Earn another 200 SC's in October with 3 flights and the last flight on October 20th earning 110 SC's.
You Qualify SG with 5 flights and 400 SC's and have until 20th October 2016 to earn another 500 SC's and have 4 flights to retain SG.
However, if you earn another 400 SC's and have another three flights before May 2016 you have then had the 8 flights and 1000 SC's in the previous 365 days and hence become platinum.
SC's earned are valid for 12 months to the day.
To upgrade to gold status you need 500 SC's earned within the prior 365 days including earning on at least 4 VA marketed flight segments.
On the date that happens, you become SG for 12 months (+ 1 review month).
Any SC's earned from that date and 365 days hence go towards re-qualification.
SC's earned over 500 at time of SG qualification will also be used for the daily calculation of Platinum qualification.
e.g. Earn 200 SC's with 2 flights in May, then earn 200 SC's with 2 flights in July. Earn another 200 SC's in October with 3 flights and the last flight on October 20th earning 110 SC's.
You Qualify SG with 5 flights and 400 SC's and have until 20th October 2016 to earn another 500 SC's and have 4 flights to retain SG.
However, if you earn another 400 SC's and have another three flights before May 2016 you have then had the 8 flights and 1000 SC's in the previous 365 days and hence become platinum.
Last edited by serfty; Sep 24, 2015 at 5:01 pm
Sep 24, 2015, 4:57 pm
#20
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: New Zealand
Programs: NZ Elite, KQ Gold, Accor Gold, IHG Gold, Choice Gold
Posts: 675
SC's earned are valid for 12 months to the day.
To upgrade to gold status you need 500 SC's earned within the prior 365 days including earning on at least 4 VA marketed flight segments.
On the date that happens, you become SG for 12 months (+ 1 review month).
Any SC's earned from that date and 365 days hence go towards re-qualification.
SC's earned over 500 at time of SG qualification will also be used for the daily calculation of Platinum qualification.
e.g. Earn 200 SC's with 2 flights in May, then earn 200 SC's with 2 flights in July. Earn another 200 SC's in October with 3 flights and the last flight on October 20th earning 110 SC's.
You Qualify SG with 5 flights and 400 SC's and have until 20th October 2016 to earn another 500 SC's and have 4 flights to retain SG.
However, if you earn another 400 SC's and have another three flights before May 2016 you have then had the 8 flights and 1000 SC's in the previous 365 days and hence become platinum.
To upgrade to gold status you need 500 SC's earned within the prior 365 days including earning on at least 4 VA marketed flight segments.
On the date that happens, you become SG for 12 months (+ 1 review month).
Any SC's earned from that date and 365 days hence go towards re-qualification.
SC's earned over 500 at time of SG qualification will also be used for the daily calculation of Platinum qualification.
e.g. Earn 200 SC's with 2 flights in May, then earn 200 SC's with 2 flights in July. Earn another 200 SC's in October with 3 flights and the last flight on October 20th earning 110 SC's.
You Qualify SG with 5 flights and 400 SC's and have until 20th October 2016 to earn another 500 SC's and have 4 flights to retain SG.
However, if you earn another 400 SC's and have another three flights before May 2016 you have then had the 8 flights and 1000 SC's in the previous 365 days and hence become platinum.
Example:
February:
10 X 10 credits NZ domestic flights = 100 status credits, 0 eligible sectors.
March:
2 X 80 credits VA metal and marketed flights = 160 credits, 2 eligible sectors.
November:
2 X 160 credits SQ international flights = 320 credits, 0 eligible sectors.
December:
3 X 80 credits VA metal and marketed flights = 240 credits, 3 eligible sectors.
Due to the SQ flights and earning 320 credits the third VA December flight isn't really relevant, but obviously the (2) eligible sectors are. I won't hit Gold until December when I fly those 2 eligible sectors. But even before then I'll have over 500 status credits.
I know that these will go toward me hitting platinum before February, but that isn't possible (I'm travelling in Europe in Jan/Feb).
My question relates to what happens to the excess status credits in relation to requalification. Are excess credits earned ebfore Gold qualification lost, or do they carry over for Gold requalification the following year?
Again, apologies if this is confusing; I'm trying to be as clear as I can.
Sep 24, 2015, 4:59 pm
#21
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See the first line of that reply:
Excess SC's are only useful for qualifying a higher level, or if WP, gifting SG/WP status to others.
Basically, if you do not qualify WP within 365 days of earning them, they will no longer be useful.
Sep 24, 2015, 5:11 pm
#22
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[now looking at options for a cheap three sector status run to qualify for Platinum...my partner is going to kill me]
Nov 4, 2015, 9:49 pm
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