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Update 08APR2014: Star Alliance Awards must have been booked by March 30, 2014. They are no longer available through US. This thread is mostly useful for historic purposes, and discussing issues such as schedule changes/route changes that affect FTers existing *A awards booked before 3/31/2014.
Discussion on using US miles to book oneworld awards is available here.
If you are looking for discussion on US's new partner awards that use various partners not in oneworld (many of whom are former *A partners), see the devoted thread on using US miles to book NON-oneworld partners here.
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Update 07JAN14: American Airlines award tickets bookable online on usairways.com or through reservation.
Please see the devoted thread on using US miles to book AA here.
Discussion on using US miles to book oneworld awards is available here.
If you are looking for discussion on US's new partner awards that use various partners not in oneworld (many of whom are former *A partners), see the devoted thread on using US miles to book NON-oneworld partners here.
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Update 07JAN14: American Airlines award tickets bookable online on usairways.com or through reservation.
- Award travel must be wholly on American Airlines or a combination of American Airlines and US Airways.
- American Airlines awards cannot be combined with any of our current partner.
- American Airlines award travel chart (PDF)
Please see the devoted thread on using US miles to book AA here.
Star Alliance Award Bookings Using US Airways Miles - FAQ and Help Thread [MERGED]
Oct 19, 2010, 12:27 am
#3736
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 3,032
Definitely illegal.
Last edited by abcx; Oct 19, 2010 at 9:10 am
Oct 19, 2010, 12:37 am
#3737
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: BNE / LHR
Programs: QF Gold
Posts: 1,601
I have NEVER gotten US to book me 2 seats on LX, i grabbed one seat ZRH-NRT in june, after this I've played around with changing my flight to ZRH-BKK instead, but seems like LX is extremle stingy with their F-seats next summer. I'm not gonna give up my F-seat "catch of the day"....
ANA F is more or like "the holy grail" among award-seats, you'll have an issue there....
ANA F is more or like "the holy grail" among award-seats, you'll have an issue there....
Oct 19, 2010, 1:16 am
#3738
Join Date: Apr 2008
Programs: QFF
Posts: 241
Is this a valid routing for S/E Asia - Africa
SIN-BKK-JNB (destinatin) -ZRH (stop over)-BOM or SIN (if BOM open jaw is not permitted)
SIN-BKK-JNB (destinatin) -ZRH (stop over)-BOM or SIN (if BOM open jaw is not permitted)
Oct 19, 2010, 4:51 am
#3739
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: LHR
Programs: Ex-NWA Plat
Posts: 1,480
BOM-SIN is not easy to find on the direct SQ flights so plan ahead!
Oct 19, 2010, 4:54 am
#3741
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: LHR
Programs: Ex-NWA Plat
Posts: 1,480
Don't try calling to play agent roulette. Your itinerary has probably been marked as illegal on their notes and therefore won't be touched by anyone else.
Oct 19, 2010, 7:45 am
#3742
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: SEA, but up and down the coast a lot
Programs: Oceanic Airlines Gold Elite
Posts: 20,392
Hahaha. That's a very ridiculous itinerary. Congrats. US to Australia via Europe, S. Africa and Asian.
My understanding is that stopovers in a more expensive region (Africa) on the way to another region (Australia) are fine, so long as you're charged for that region, and JNB is a *A hub (SA). So if this was charged at 70 for Y, 110 for C, 150 for F, what's the problem?
Oct 19, 2010, 9:11 am
#3743
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 3,032
What would be a valid itinerary that would include Africa and Australia from the US?
My understanding is that stopovers in a more expensive region (Africa) on the way to another region (Australia) are fine, so long as you're charged for that region, and JNB is a *A hub (SA). So if this was charged at 70 for Y, 110 for C, 150 for F, what's the problem?
My understanding is that stopovers in a more expensive region (Africa) on the way to another region (Australia) are fine, so long as you're charged for that region, and JNB is a *A hub (SA). So if this was charged at 70 for Y, 110 for C, 150 for F, what's the problem?
Oct 19, 2010, 9:35 am
#3744
Suspended
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 736
Does anyone know if row 82 is any good on LH or does it feel totally exposed and potentially noisy overnight due to the service cart parking?
Oct 19, 2010, 9:46 am
#3745
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Location: SEA, but up and down the coast a lot
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Posts: 20,392
I would think it would fly in the face of MPM or most direct routing though US seems to lack these rules.
The problem with using the direct SYD-LAX/SFO flights on UA (or SYD-AKL-LAX on NZ, or SYD/AXL-YVR on AC) is that according to our own gleff:
In general I find that awards to from North America to Tahiti are the second most difficult to secure. Admittedly, I’m highly North America-centric. The most difficult in my experience is North America to Australia and New Zealand direct. Via Asia (or Europe and Asia) is quite doable. But those non-stops from Los Angeles, San Francisco, or Vancouver to Sydney or Auckland on United, Air Canada, and Air New Zealand are all quite tough to come by. The Air New Zealand flights are actually the most doable, though in Northern Hemisphere winter the business seats usually only release exactly 60 days in advance of flight (and closer in as well, but that 60-day release date seems to be quite common).
So you're back to TG/BKK again, with either a choice of the BKK-LAX flight, more stops in Asia to get to SEA, or back through Europe.
Oct 19, 2010, 9:46 am
#3746
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Purgatory
Programs: Too many to list. Status is a half dozen.
Posts: 9,235
Just because the window seat passenger can get around the aisle seat even when it bed mode. Either way,the cart is a non-issue. It's not on both sides the full flight and even then it's only accessed repeatedly typically during meal service.
Oct 19, 2010, 10:37 am
#3747
Moderator: American AAdvantage & Marriott Bonvoy
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: PHX
Programs: American ExPlat; Marriott/SPG Lifetime Plat; Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 8,116
LH F upper deck seats on the 744
I like Row 82 if traveling with someone. You're near the front for the order of service, not right in front of the restrooms, and without a service cart in front of you.
Personally, I don't really understand all the excitement about Row 83. If you're traveling by yourself, 83A is probably the best seat, as it's so easy to get in and out of your seat. For two, the A&C side of Row 83 is not bad, as nothing is going on right in front of you, but I still think if you're with another person Row 82 is better.
Row 81 on the A side has a bathroom view I would avoid, but my second choice as a single passenger would be 81 K, by the window. Can't see the bathroom and provides the maximum privacy on the LH 744 upper deck F cabin.
Oct 19, 2010, 10:39 am
#3748
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: NAN, YVR
Programs: AC *SE, Westjet PLAT, UA Prem, Alaska MVP, Marriott Ambassador, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 311
What would be a valid itinerary that would include Africa and Australia from the US?
My understanding is that stopovers in a more expensive region (Africa) on the way to another region (Australia) are fine, so long as you're charged for that region, and JNB is a *A hub (SA). So if this was charged at 70 for Y, 110 for C, 150 for F, what's the problem?
My understanding is that stopovers in a more expensive region (Africa) on the way to another region (Australia) are fine, so long as you're charged for that region, and JNB is a *A hub (SA). So if this was charged at 70 for Y, 110 for C, 150 for F, what's the problem?
As gottaluvNW mentioned, I will just hang tight and see what happens. I can live without the date change.
Oct 19, 2010, 10:42 am
#3749
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 3,032
SEA-FRA-MUC-JNB isn't actually much worse than SEA-IAD-JNB, and SA doesn't fly to SYD, just PER, so routing through BKK to get to SYD isn't unreasonable, either.
The problem with using the direct SYD-LAX/SFO flights on UA (or SYD-AKL-LAX on NZ, or SYD/AXL-YVR on AC) is that according to our own gleff:
So you're almost forced to route back through Asia. SQ's not really an option until they open up the 77Ws to the likes of us mortals. So you're back to TG/BKK again, with either a choice of the BKK-LAX flight, more stops in Asia to get to SEA, or back through Europe.
The problem with using the direct SYD-LAX/SFO flights on UA (or SYD-AKL-LAX on NZ, or SYD/AXL-YVR on AC) is that according to our own gleff:
So you're almost forced to route back through Asia. SQ's not really an option until they open up the 77Ws to the likes of us mortals.
So you're back to TG/BKK again, with either a choice of the BKK-LAX flight, more stops in Asia to get to SEA, or back through Europe.But US has never cared in the past and I doubt anyone will call the OP.
Oct 19, 2010, 10:44 am
#3750
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 3,032
82 is not the row with the service cart in front of it -- that's 83 - the exit row.
I like Row 82 if traveling with someone. You're near the front for the order of service, not right in front of the restrooms, and without a service cart in front of you.
Personally, I don't really understand all the excitement about Row 83. If you're traveling by yourself, 83A is probably the best seat, as it's so easy to get in and out of your seat. For two, the A&C side of Row 83 is not bad, as nothing is going on right in front of you, but I still think if you're with another person Row 82 is better.
Row 81 on the A side has a bathroom view I would avoid, but my second choice as a single passenger would be 81 K, by the window. Can't see the bathroom and provides the maximum privacy on the LH 744 upper deck F cabin.
I like Row 82 if traveling with someone. You're near the front for the order of service, not right in front of the restrooms, and without a service cart in front of you.
Personally, I don't really understand all the excitement about Row 83. If you're traveling by yourself, 83A is probably the best seat, as it's so easy to get in and out of your seat. For two, the A&C side of Row 83 is not bad, as nothing is going on right in front of you, but I still think if you're with another person Row 82 is better.
Row 81 on the A side has a bathroom view I would avoid, but my second choice as a single passenger would be 81 K, by the window. Can't see the bathroom and provides the maximum privacy on the LH 744 upper deck F cabin.