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Note: this thread replaces the thread in the US forum on automatic upgrades on US flights. The latest of these threads is here:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/us-airways-dividend-miles-pre-consolidation/1642741-us-automatic-upgrades-elite-master-thread-2015-a.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/us-airways-dividend-miles-pre-consolidation/1642741-us-automatic-upgrades-elite-master-thread-2015-a.html
AAdvantage Automatic Upgrades on US-operated flights (new program 2015)
#196
Join Date: Sep 2014
Programs: AA EP, Hilton Diamond, Hertz Platinum
Posts: 636
I previously posted this in the Newbie lounge with likely isn't the right place. Mods please feel free to adjust.
For EXP complimentary upgrades I know there are times when you have to wait until 24 instead of the standard window because of the codeshare. If I book the following on the US Website - OKC to DFW AA operated and DFW to PHX US operated will I be at 24 hours for the AA portion and 100 hours for the US? My goal here is to have the best chances of upgrading the longer DFW to PHX portion and I plan to book on US for that normal window. My concern is that the first leg is on AA. Does this matter?
For EXP complimentary upgrades I know there are times when you have to wait until 24 instead of the standard window because of the codeshare. If I book the following on the US Website - OKC to DFW AA operated and DFW to PHX US operated will I be at 24 hours for the AA portion and 100 hours for the US? My goal here is to have the best chances of upgrading the longer DFW to PHX portion and I plan to book on US for that normal window. My concern is that the first leg is on AA. Does this matter?
1) For the DFW to PHX flight, you will be eligible for the upgrade at the 4 day window. US goes by days not hours for upgrades.
2) For the OKC to DFW flight, you will only be able to get an upgrade if available at check in within 24 hours of flight. If its not available at check in, ask to be added to the upgrade list at the airport.
3) Should you not get upgraded in advance for the US flight, you'll have to have an agent at the airport add you to the upgrade list. My suggestion would be to have that done in OKC at the US counter. If its anything like TUL, you might have the same agents working both AA and US.
#197
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: GSO
Programs: AA Platinum, Delta Gold Medallion, Marriott Platinum Elite, Hertz President's Circle, IHG Gold
Posts: 129
Standby for 1st @ Check-In Not Working?
I checked in this morning for my IAH>PHL flight tomorrow. On the seat selection page I normally get the option to select the "Standby for First Class" check box. I did not get that option, but it clearly showed 3 seats available for a fee. Is this the "new normal" or just a glitch in the system? Has anyone else seen this issue? I called the Platinum line, and she was stumped too. Told me to keep watching and just ask at the gate if I don't clear today. I also looked at the Upgrade stand-by list, and it showed nobody on the list, with 3 seats available.
Any suggestions??
Any suggestions??
#198
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Jacksonville, Fl USA
Programs: AA EXP, Admirals Club, IHG Gold, Hilton Diamond, National Emerald Executive
Posts: 140
I checked in this morning for my IAH>PHL flight tomorrow. On the seat selection page I normally get the option to select the "Standby for First Class" check box. I did not get that option, but it clearly showed 3 seats available for a fee. Is this the "new normal" or just a glitch in the system? Has anyone else seen this issue? I called the Platinum line, and she was stumped too. Told me to keep watching and just ask at the gate if I don't clear today. I also looked at the Upgrade stand-by list, and it showed nobody on the list, with 3 seats available.
Any suggestions??
Any suggestions??
Did you book via US or AA?
Seems like a glitch. Try rechecking in via the US Airways APP. That always allows me to grab them seats in F.
#199
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Louisville, KY
Programs: AA EXP
Posts: 94
In my experience, the only time I get the 24 hour upgrade window is when I book codeshares. If neither of the flights are codeshares, then you should be upgrade at the normal window no matter which website you use to do the booking. YMMV
#200
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: GSO
Programs: AA Platinum, Delta Gold Medallion, Marriott Platinum Elite, Hertz President's Circle, IHG Gold
Posts: 129
I booked via AA site, but these all flights are US Airways flights. I checked in via the US app. I could see available F seats, but the only option was to pay for them. I guess I'll just keep monitoring. I thought it was strange that nobody was listed on the Upgrade list either...sounds like a glitch.
Thx
#202
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Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: MCI
Programs: AA Gold 1MM, AS MVP, UA Silver, WN A-List, Marriott LT Titanium, HH Diamond
Posts: 52,574
But then I often get a second email, with upgrade success, 2 to 3 days prior to the flight. My hit rate is at least 75% this year, always US ticket stock, US metal, and US flight numbers. That's far better than I ever had on UA or DL as a low-tier elite. (AA always varied from great to bad, depending on whether it was a good place to use 500's.)
I may be in the minority of flyers who will miss US Airways. I'm sure a few months from now, we'll be back to the e-500 system and I'll have to pick and choose my upgrades. One of my regular segments is MCI/PHX, a lousy route on which to use the 500's (assuming I'd need three of them).
#203
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: SFO
Programs: WFBF
Posts: 963
I usually get my first "Your Upgrade Status" email 4 or 5 days ahead of my flight. Always a denial, as I'd expect as that's way before an AA Gold would expect it.
But then I often get a second email, with upgrade success, 2 to 3 days prior to the flight. My hit rate is at least 75% this year, always US ticket stock, US metal, and US flight numbers. That's far better than I ever had on UA or DL as a low-tier elite. (AA always varied from great to bad, depending on whether it was a good place to use 500's.)
I may be in the minority of flyers who will miss US Airways. I'm sure a few months from now, we'll be back to the e-500 system and I'll have to pick and choose my upgrades. One of my regular segments is MCI/PHX, a lousy route on which to use the 500's (assuming I'd need three of them).
But then I often get a second email, with upgrade success, 2 to 3 days prior to the flight. My hit rate is at least 75% this year, always US ticket stock, US metal, and US flight numbers. That's far better than I ever had on UA or DL as a low-tier elite. (AA always varied from great to bad, depending on whether it was a good place to use 500's.)
I may be in the minority of flyers who will miss US Airways. I'm sure a few months from now, we'll be back to the e-500 system and I'll have to pick and choose my upgrades. One of my regular segments is MCI/PHX, a lousy route on which to use the 500's (assuming I'd need three of them).
#204
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Global
Posts: 5,998
FWIW - More changes to the system might be happening....
Request upgrades....
We're unable to automatically request an upgrade for your flights.
To request an upgrade, you can:
• Submit an upgrade request
• Call 800-882-8880 or contact us
The flight... April 2016!
Request upgrades....
We're unable to automatically request an upgrade for your flights.
To request an upgrade, you can:
• Submit an upgrade request
• Call 800-882-8880 or contact us
The flight... April 2016!
#205
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Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: MCI
Programs: AA Gold 1MM, AS MVP, UA Silver, WN A-List, Marriott LT Titanium, HH Diamond
Posts: 52,574
I flew MCI-PHX-SJC on Thursday. PHX-SJC cleared at T-4d. MCI-PHX cleared a day later. I'm used to the fact that when I book AA the upgrade will never clear at the T-100h window, but the fact that it's starting to come later on a route like MCI-PHX is worrying to me. That's never been anything approaching elite-heavy, and was an easy upgrade for me even back when I was starting out with USDM and was a lowly US Gold.
"Not yet available" for PHX-PDX that evening. Seatmap still shows 4 open and a light load in the Preferred seats in Y, so maybe there's some hope...
#206
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: LAX, LGB, SNA
Programs: AA EXP OWE, DL DM ST+, AS MVPG, UA, BA, WN CP, Hyatt E, Ritz Plat, HH GM
Posts: 3,185
If I'm plat and my companion is nothing and we're on one pnr, is our upgrade window 3 days before flight? Can I get us both upgraded if there are 2 A seats available 3 days before flight? Or does my companion drag me down to 24 hours? Don't really want to split pnr and be a terrible person.
#207
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: South Florida
Programs: AA LTG (EXP), Hilton Silver (Dia), Marriott LTP (PP), SPG LTG (P) > MPG LTPP
Posts: 11,329
If I'm plat and my companion is nothing and we're on one pnr, is our upgrade window 3 days before flight? Can I get us both upgraded if there are 2 A seats available 3 days before flight? Or does my companion drag me down to 24 hours? Don't really want to split pnr and be a terrible person.
#208
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: LAX, LGB, SNA
Programs: AA EXP OWE, DL DM ST+, AS MVPG, UA, BA, WN CP, Hyatt E, Ritz Plat, HH GM
Posts: 3,185
Being on a single PNR will give you both the highest status between the two. The real trick is AA opening two seats at the same time, but if they do and you both are then next two to be upgraded (not the next pair), then yes, you should get the upgrade. AA is more likely to open seat one at a time, in which case you will be skipped over. You can request to split (not the PNR) for the upgrade in which case one would be upgraded before the other. At one time I thought they went alphabetical through the PNR as I would get upgraded before the EXP, but that hasn't always been the case.
#209
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: PHL
Programs: AA ExP, Marriott Amb, National EAE, Hilton Diamond, SPG Plat (RIP), US CP (RIP)
Posts: 2,379
#210
Join Date: Oct 2007
Programs: AA, WN, UA, Bonvoy, Hertz
Posts: 2,491
I booked a mixed AA/AA and US/US itinerary on aa.com using Google flights redirect to remove the codeshare potential that always occur when I go via the website directly.
The AA flights came first, did get one upgrade, no email.
The T-4 days email came from US for the US/US segments, and I saw a message that I have never seen before: "Segment mismatch". The US folks said that it was referencing the AA flights (which the US system can't upgrade) even though they listed the US flights (as a normal upgrade email will do), but I am still on the waiting list for the US flights even though they have not cleared as yet -- maybe they should have, but not sure if the mix booking is confusing the system.
I mean, I will find out if those US/US flights do clear or if the mixed booking is not working well with the reservation systems. In any case, it seems pretty easy to confuse the systems.
Finally while I have never tried it, the agent specifically said that they don't touch the upgrades and let the systems do their thing (essentially, this is related to the jumping the queue situation that was possible when availability opened, but didn't process the list). I am not sure if this is a new policy or the queue jumping thing still happens.
Rasheed
The AA flights came first, did get one upgrade, no email.
The T-4 days email came from US for the US/US segments, and I saw a message that I have never seen before: "Segment mismatch". The US folks said that it was referencing the AA flights (which the US system can't upgrade) even though they listed the US flights (as a normal upgrade email will do), but I am still on the waiting list for the US flights even though they have not cleared as yet -- maybe they should have, but not sure if the mix booking is confusing the system.
I mean, I will find out if those US/US flights do clear or if the mixed booking is not working well with the reservation systems. In any case, it seems pretty easy to confuse the systems.
Finally while I have never tried it, the agent specifically said that they don't touch the upgrades and let the systems do their thing (essentially, this is related to the jumping the queue situation that was possible when availability opened, but didn't process the list). I am not sure if this is a new policy or the queue jumping thing still happens.
Rasheed