Kacee

The sUA IPTE J seat is the most comfortable I've flown for both sleeping and, especially, lounging partially reclined. B/E seat is also very good for lounging but a bit harder for sleep. No one does the partially reclined position as well as UA.

Just got off UA2 and other parts of the product were not so great. Food was terrible and FAs disappeared for 10 hours.

Sykes

I'm confused as to how, if you're on a window seat, having to climb over someone to reach the aisle affects your sleep. I agree that it is terrible for other reasons, but unless you're doing some pretty serious sleepwalking, I can't imagine being blocked in affects the quality of sleep much.

fly747first

As much as I dislike UA, I have to give them credit on this... the new Polaris seats on 77W aircraft are far better than any NZ BusinesPremier seat.

findark

As a window person, that was my thought too

uastarflyer

which is also a climb out just like the 767.

The sUA IPTE seat padding and ergonomics are still top shelf 10 years in. Overall personal space and ingress egress has fallen back v current gen offerings (though F suites still trump top tier seats on many others)

seat38a

They put on a think blanket like material on the seat. No padding when I flew.
Picture below.

uclabruin82

Slightly OT, but how do the AC 787 business class seats stack-up to the other seats being discussed in this thread? Supposed to fly them for the first time later this year.

cesco.g

Thx for all the valuable information, incl Duke787 for all the AA and DL details. I will have to save some of this thread for future reference.

+ for Polaris. On my last TATL for the first time I tried the mattress pad and it made for extra sleeping comfort. ^
Re quiet sleep: the new masks are good^, my biggest issue is still the louse/unusable ear plugs!

radiowell

I actually kept my bulkhead LH BOS-MUC flight on A359, because of the following post

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/27868738-post10.html

Otherwise, the advantage seems to be only at the window pairs.

eng3

As for generally waking hours, the seat is fine. The only issue is the lack of storage space (with the exception of the UD 747). I'm a window person as it gives me the feeling of more privacy. Climbing over my neighbor is annoying but I've gotten pretty good at it.

There is also general jet lag. I try to adjust to my destination timezone as soon as possible. Most people sleep after the meal and wake up some time before breakfast. Sometimes if you're arriving early morning, it makes sense to delay sleep, if you're arriving late evening, it makes sense wake up early. I can move my meal time, but I can't sleep with the constant noises of everyone around you eating. Having light during "waking hours makes a big difference. With the window shade down policy and not wanting to be the lone guy in the cabin with the shade up, it makes it difficult to be awake when I want to be awake and sleep when I want to sleep.

In terms of sleep, I've had several issues in all types of lay flat seats.

Mostly the issue is width. I typically sleep on my side or stomach. Sleeping on my stomach doesn't work because there's no where to put your arms since it curves in. I also don't typically sleep with my legs perfectly straight, so my knee or foot will hit the wall. Always choosing the bulkhead seat helps with this. Constantly hitting your arm, knee, etc on something make it feel like you're sleeping in a coffin.

The other issue I have is temperature. Maybe its my crazy body but when I first goto sleep, I always feel warm. Some of the planes don't even have an air vent so its torture and I'll start sweating (which sucks when you want to sleep). Then later in the flight I'll be freezing (but a blanket can easily solve that issue). Maybe my body is digesting the giant meal I just ate creating heat and once I fall asleep everything cools down, I dont know. Basically, having air vents is essential.

Finally, there's the galley light and noise. An eye mask isnt the most comfortable thing to wear but it works somewhat. There's always some light leak. As for noise this can vary from no noise to constant chatter and laughter. I'm usually always awaken by breakfast prep noises.

I have yet to try the 77W but am looking forward to it.

In The 216

I flew Singapore A380 Suites Class AKL-SIN last December and I couldn't wait to get off the plane. The seat, in upright, recline and full lie flat modes, was terrible uncomfortable.

docbert

I've flown this maybe a dozen times in the past year (including 3 in the past month), and I've always found it very comfortable. My biggest annoyance, as has been mentioned a few posts back, is the lack of an air vent - and the fact they frequently have the cabin far colder than I would prefer...

That said, I do agree that UA's is one of the most comfortable. No trouble at all getting a few hours sleep on todays MUC-SFO!

Tennen

Personally, I like the AC J seats a lot (B/E Aerospace Super Diamond?). The 787s have a bit less storage space than their 777s, but otherwise, there isn't much difference. Lots of personal space, storage, and privacy. I'd be surprised if anyone preferred the pmUA seats over them, but I could see how some might enjoy the pmCO seats, especially when travelling with someone else.

One thing I dislike about the AC seats is the position of the tray table when retracted. Since it comes out from under the TV, it forms a sort of ledge when it's stowed. I kept bumping my knees/legs into it while in bed mode.

I can't recall much about their bedding, but I believe they have a single duvet only and no mattress pad. Based on what I've heard about Polaris bedding, I don't think many airlines match what UA provides.

pandablood

Yeah, I had something grey. Was nice for me.

flybit

the worst business class seat is Air Canada, the seat is hard does not really lie flat to the floor, and the tray table is so low you cant roll over.