United Starting nonstop flight SFO-SIN - June 2016
Jan 28, 2016, 11:04 pm
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As to time savings, SIN-SFO still lands 9:15AM, the savings is sleeping in 2-3 more hours before takeoff.
The miles on SFO-NRT-SIN is 8452 (5124+3328). The nonstop shows 8444. Does that seem right? Is the connection really that efficient in terms of distance v. a direct?
Edit: the new non-stop timing makes overnights India-SIN possible connecting onto UA. UA could possibly set up a codeshare on AI feeders/finishers to/from SIN.
Jan 28, 2016, 11:09 pm
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I came back just to post this
As to time savings, SIN-SFO still lands 9:15AM, the savings is sleeping in 2-3 more hours before takeoff.
The miles on SFO-NRT-SIN is 8452 (5124+3328). The nonstop shows 8444. Does that seem right? Is the connection really that efficient in terms of distance v. a direct?
As to time savings, SIN-SFO still lands 9:15AM, the savings is sleeping in 2-3 more hours before takeoff.
The miles on SFO-NRT-SIN is 8452 (5124+3328). The nonstop shows 8444. Does that seem right? Is the connection really that efficient in terms of distance v. a direct?
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=sfo-sin...n&MS=wls&DU=mi
Jan 28, 2016, 11:14 pm
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Jan 28, 2016, 11:17 pm
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Just noticed this was loaded starting in June on B789!
UA 1 SFO-SIN 2325 - 0645 +2
UA 2 SIN-SFO 0845 - 0915
How ironic they used UA 1 and UA 2. Is this a jab at SQ since they use SQ 1 and SQ 2.
Will United steal premium cabin passengers from SQ?
http://newsroom.united.com/2016-01-2...-and-Singapore
UA 1 SFO-SIN 2325 - 0645 +2
UA 2 SIN-SFO 0845 - 0915
How ironic they used UA 1 and UA 2. Is this a jab at SQ since they use SQ 1 and SQ 2.
Will United steal premium cabin passengers from SQ?
http://newsroom.united.com/2016-01-2...-and-Singapore
Jan 28, 2016, 11:20 pm
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Having done (too) many a MR SFO-SIN, I can tell you that it is. Both NRT and HKG are almost perfectly on the great circle route between SFO and SIN:
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=sfo-sin...n&MS=wls&DU=mi
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=sfo-sin...n&MS=wls&DU=mi
Thank you! Ah yes, learning about putting together MR (or in my case pseudo-MRs) SFO-SIN, with stays at the Conrad using UA award coupons, was what lured me to join FT all those years ago.
Jan 28, 2016, 11:32 pm
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Sweet!
As much as I enjoyed the SQ flights, I will gladly sacrifice the lobster for 2x EQM, lifetime EQM, and most important elimination of the forced stopover and deplaning at HKG.
I don't see SFO-BKK in UA's future, too many leisure travelers and SIN is more of a regional hub. BKK is a great place to visit but far fewer i-bankers and other business travelers that will pay for premium seats, which are the profit center.
As much as I enjoyed the SQ flights, I will gladly sacrifice the lobster for 2x EQM, lifetime EQM, and most important elimination of the forced stopover and deplaning at HKG.
I don't see SFO-BKK in UA's future, too many leisure travelers and SIN is more of a regional hub. BKK is a great place to visit but far fewer i-bankers and other business travelers that will pay for premium seats, which are the profit center.
Jan 28, 2016, 11:35 pm
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I think with the increasing aircraft capabilities, Asian carriers becoming more popular with US-based flyers and discount Asian carriers taking lots of intra-Asia traffic, UA has to ditch the NRT hub and do more nonstops. This is the ideal time to try - fuel is low and SQ has not resumed the nonstops.
The benefit is definitely the time saving - especially to cities in southeast Asia not served by UA (e.g. KUL, CGK). I suppose UA would still route people through NRT on NH instead of having through fares through SIN on SQ - as there is no revenue share? NH intra-Asia Y seats are really really unpleasant.
I do think there is probably a decent amount of cargo business - expensive electronics?
Hopefully the mid-flight snack in Y will become free - at least on this route
The benefit is definitely the time saving - especially to cities in southeast Asia not served by UA (e.g. KUL, CGK). I suppose UA would still route people through NRT on NH instead of having through fares through SIN on SQ - as there is no revenue share? NH intra-Asia Y seats are really really unpleasant.
I do think there is probably a decent amount of cargo business - expensive electronics?
Hopefully the mid-flight snack in Y will become free - at least on this route
Jan 29, 2016, 12:51 am
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This will be a pretty nice trip for the SFI crews 26 hour layover in SIN trip is worth about 32 hours.
10:10p check in
11:25p departure
6:45a arrival
7:15a debrief
26 hour layover
7:45a check in
8:45a departure
9:15a arrival
9:45a debrief
Not bad for a 4 day trip.
10:10p check in
11:25p departure
6:45a arrival
7:15a debrief
26 hour layover
7:45a check in
8:45a departure
9:15a arrival
9:45a debrief
Not bad for a 4 day trip.
Jan 29, 2016, 2:43 am
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Well, ask to those of us with Travel Policy requiring to purchase the cheapest fare (so, W and above - it is excluded) regardless of carrier - how do we handle it...
Jan 29, 2016, 5:33 am
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that's interesting news for sure. Could be an option for my SIN trip later this year. 789 is not that bad.
Jan 29, 2016, 6:40 am
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I have no idea what plane ANA uses for their NRT<->SIN runs, but their 787 economy seating can be really really really bad.
Jan 29, 2016, 6:44 am
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