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United Starting nonstop flight SFO-SIN - June 2016

United Starting nonstop flight SFO-SIN - June 2016

Old Jan 28, 16, 5:59 pm
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United Starting nonstop flight SFO-SIN - June 2016

Just noticed this was loaded starting in June on B789!

UA 1 SFO-SIN 2325 - 0645 +2
UA 2 SIN-SFO 0845 - 0915

How ironic they used UA 1 and UA 2. Is this a jab at SQ since they use SQ 1 and SQ 2.

Will United steal premium cabin passengers from SQ?

http://newsroom.united.com/2016-01-28-United-Airlines-to-Operate-Longest-Scheduled-Flight-Between-San-Francisco-and-Singapore

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Old Jan 28, 16, 6:03 pm
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Holy crap!

Not even a press release??

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Old Jan 28, 16, 6:10 pm
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United Airlines to Operate Longest Scheduled Flight Between San Francisco and Singapore
Daily Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner service to Singapore begins June 1, 2016


CHICAGO, Jan. 28, 2016 /PRNewswire/ -- United Airlines today announced that it will introduce daily nonstop flights between its San Francisco International Airport hub and Singapore's Changi Airport, effective June 1, 2016 (westbound), subject to government approval. United will be the first airline to offer nonstop service between San Francisco and Singapore, and this will be the only nonstop service to the U.S. from Singapore.

United will use the world's most advanced passenger airplane, the Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner, to operate the service. Measured by distance, the San Francisco - Singapore service will be the longest scheduled 787 flight operated by any airline and the longest scheduled flight operated by any U.S. carrier, at 8,446 miles.

"We are very excited about introducing nonstop flights between San Francisco and Singapore," said Marcel Fuchs, United's vice president of Atlantic and Pacific sales. "This long-awaited service has been made possible by the newest version of our customer-pleasing Boeing 787 Dreamliner, and will offer unique benefits to customers traveling between our West Coast hub at San Francisco and Singapore. Customers arriving to San Francisco will have dozens of options to connect to other cities across the Americas."
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Flight Schedule
Flight UA1 will depart San Francisco at 11:25 p.m. daily, arriving in Singapore at 6:45 a.m. two days later (all times local). The return flight, UA2, will depart Singapore's Changi Airport at 8:45 a.m. daily, arriving at San Francisco International Airport at 9:15 a.m. the same day. Flying times will be approximately 15 hours, 30 minutes eastbound and 16 hours, 20 minutes westbound.
By using the new nonstop flights between San Francisco and Singapore, customers will be able to save up to four hours' journey time each way, as compared with the current United one- stop service and competitors' schedules.

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Singapore Schedule Changes
With the launch of nonstop San Francisco - Singapore service, United will terminate service between Singapore and Tokyo/Narita effective June 2, 2016 (eastbound). However, United customers in Singapore may continue to choose to fly to Tokyo/Narita by using daily flights on ANA, United's trans-Pacific joint venture partner, and to make connections at Narita to many cities in the U.S. on multiple flights operated both by United and ANA. United will maintain its daily service between Singapore and Hong Kong.
Terminating UA's SIN-NRT is going to create some non-happy campers.
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Old Jan 28, 16, 6:12 pm
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Awesome! Not as loyal of a UA guy as in the past, but exciting to see new routes popping up. One stop from MCI to SIN!

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Old Jan 28, 16, 6:13 pm
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Also interesting:

SIN-NRT will be dropped, but SIN-HKG remains.
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Old Jan 28, 16, 6:13 pm
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Why does it say "Subject to receipt of government operating authority" under the flight? Does this mean United hasn't received approval to fly this route yet?

Sorry if this is a basic question

*Edit: I see it in the press release. "Subject to government approval"

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Old Jan 28, 16, 6:26 pm
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And per the WSJ the new flight will be staffed with CO FAs.
United says Boeing Dreamliners on route will operate longest flight by a U.S. airline
Those planes currently are staffed by flight attendants from merger partner Continental Airlines. The San Francisco base was once home to United Airlines attendants who often flew on trips to Asia. But because the flight attendants havenít reached a new, joint labor contract in the five years since the airline merged, they fly only on the planes that were operated or on order by each partner before the merger.
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Old Jan 28, 16, 6:29 pm
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trivial, but i'm glad they saved UA 1/2 for a route like this. not quite the RTW it once was, but worthy nonetheless.

they've been popping up randomly: a recent BOS-EWR was UA2.

let the speculation begin about the NRT-SIN a/c doing BKK turns instead.

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Old Jan 28, 16, 6:33 pm
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Great news!

I've wondered in the past about the opportunities of UA building a late evening bank of transpac flights. In the near future, there will be: HND, AKL, SYD, and SIN. Perhaps with the 788/9, some of the routes that now receive 772/744 service can be split into two sections to capture more schedule-sensitive traffic. That'll be a real game changer.
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Old Jan 28, 16, 6:44 pm
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I think the NRTR-SIN is a real lose. I am really sorry to see that go. There is so much transfer traffic in NRT for LAX, ORD, IAD, DEN that now will have to fly ANA. The SFO pax are the real winners here. Forget any Award or upgrade on this. Therefore little Award and no upgrades to SIN for anyone from ORD, IAD,DEN, LAX.
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Old Jan 28, 16, 6:46 pm
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That means the only intra-Asia left operated by UA is NRT-ICN? (excluding GUM)
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Old Jan 28, 16, 6:47 pm
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Originally Posted by fireemblempride View Post
that means the only intra-asia left operated by ua is nrt-icn? (excluding gum)
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Old Jan 28, 16, 6:50 pm
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Originally Posted by JayhawkCO View Post
Awesome! Not as loyal of a UA guy as in the past, but exciting to see new routes popping up. One stop from MCI to SIN!

Chris
LOL! FriendlySkies will like that. He can take nonstop to SIN from SFO.
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Old Jan 28, 16, 6:50 pm
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Originally Posted by TonyBurr View Post
I think the NRTR-SIN is a real lose. I am really sorry to see that go. There is so much transfer traffic in NRT for LAX, ORD, IAD, DEN that now will have to fly ANA. The SFO pax are the real winners here. Forget any Award or upgrade on this. Therefore little Award and no upgrades to SIN for anyone from ORD, IAD,DEN, LAX.
It's really only the IAD pax that lose out to SIN with a materially longer journey time. ORD/EWR can still transfer at HKG, and DEN-SFO is only marginally longer (<4%) than a NRT transfer. For LAX pax, it's essentially the same. It also opens up dozens of one-stop routings to SIN that weren't previously available on any carrier. That's a big selling point, reminiscent of CO being the first mover on EWR-HKG in 2001, or UA to PEK/PVG in 2000.

UA is on the record saying the NRTSIN route is among their most successful flights, so it goes without saying that they expect the SFOSIN route to be a winner.

Here's hoping the new BusinessFirst product comes around soon.
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Old Jan 28, 16, 7:01 pm
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Originally Posted by Kacee View Post
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I was talking about NRT only, but indeed, what an occasion. More non-US Asia flights out of HKG than NRT, in 2016.
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