PQMs earned on Air New Zeland
Sep 1, 2015, 2:04 pm
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PQMs earned on Air New Zeland
Hi guys,
I need UA PQMs and I purchased a flight through an OTA on air new zeland. one of the flights is operated by UA, but the ticket has the NZ flight number. The ticket number does not begin in 016.
My itinerary looks like this:
YYC-->LAX, Westjet, Booking class D
LAX-->SYD, NZXXXX, operated by UA, Booking Class G
SYD-->AKL, NZXXX, Booking class V
AKL-->YVR, NZXXX, Booking class G
YVR-->YYC, NZXXX, Operated by AC, Booking class W
I have been trying to discern the amount of PQMs I will earn but i'm getting a bit confused. I was just matched to premier status and am trying to hit the PQM requirements.
Thanks!
I need UA PQMs and I purchased a flight through an OTA on air new zeland. one of the flights is operated by UA, but the ticket has the NZ flight number. The ticket number does not begin in 016.
My itinerary looks like this:
YYC-->LAX, Westjet, Booking class D
LAX-->SYD, NZXXXX, operated by UA, Booking Class G
SYD-->AKL, NZXXX, Booking class V
AKL-->YVR, NZXXX, Booking class G
YVR-->YYC, NZXXX, Operated by AC, Booking class W
I have been trying to discern the amount of PQMs I will earn but i'm getting a bit confused. I was just matched to premier status and am trying to hit the PQM requirements.
Thanks!
Sep 1, 2015, 2:58 pm
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In *A the PQMs depend on
-- the flight operator -- not the "flight number"
-- the fare class of the flight operator -- not the flight marketer
-- the program you are crediting
Look will need to look up each segment separately using these airline charts on united.com since you are crediting UA MP
The WestJet operated flight is 0% -- not part of *A.
The UA operated flight will be 100%
The AC operated flight will likely be 100%
The NZ operated V flight will be 100%
The NZ operated G flight appears to be 0%. ouch!
Does your challenge include non-UA operated flights??? it usually does not.
-- the flight operator -- not the "flight number"
-- the fare class of the flight operator -- not the flight marketer
-- the program you are crediting
Look will need to look up each segment separately using these airline charts on united.com since you are crediting UA MP
The WestJet operated flight is 0% -- not part of *A.
The UA operated flight will be 100%
The AC operated flight will likely be 100%
The NZ operated V flight will be 100%
The NZ operated G flight appears to be 0%. ouch!
Does your challenge include non-UA operated flights??? it usually does not.
Last edited by WineCountryUA; Sep 1, 2015 at 3:04 pm Reason: missed second question
Sep 1, 2015, 3:01 pm
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YYC-->LAX, Westjet, Booking class D
0 PQM (ineligible)
LAX-->SYD, NZXXXX, operated by UA, Booking Class G
~7500 PQM (100%)
SYD-->AKL, NZXXX, Booking class V
~1350 PQM (100%)
AKL-->YVR, NZXXX, Booking class G
0 PQM (ineligible)
YVR-->YYC, NZXXX, Operated by AC, Booking class W
PQM depends on AC booking class, not NZ booking class
Probably 25%, maybe 100%, could be 0%. AC W would be 500 PQM (100%/500min).
0 PQM (ineligible)
LAX-->SYD, NZXXXX, operated by UA, Booking Class G
~7500 PQM (100%)
SYD-->AKL, NZXXX, Booking class V
~1350 PQM (100%)
AKL-->YVR, NZXXX, Booking class G
0 PQM (ineligible)
YVR-->YYC, NZXXX, Operated by AC, Booking class W
PQM depends on AC booking class, not NZ booking class
Probably 25%, maybe 100%, could be 0%. AC W would be 500 PQM (100%/500min).
Sep 1, 2015, 3:03 pm
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Yup. WestJet is not a UA partner at all, and NZ doesn't earn on G class. AC W fare (if NZ's W maps to AC's W)=100%.
So I get 0+7,488+1,345+0+428=9,261. (miles from gcmap.com)
Not a great total for 17,510 of actual flying.
@mduell
I don't think UA's 500-mile minimum for elites applies on non-UA metal, does it?
I swear I've gotten less than 500 on some intra-EU LH segments. That's why I said 428 for YVR-YYC.
So I get 0+7,488+1,345+0+428=9,261. (miles from gcmap.com)
Not a great total for 17,510 of actual flying.
@mduell
I don't think UA's 500-mile minimum for elites applies on non-UA metal, does it?
I swear I've gotten less than 500 on some intra-EU LH segments. That's why I said 428 for YVR-YYC.
Last edited by WineCountryUA; Sep 1, 2015 at 6:02 pm Reason: merging consecutive posts by same member
Sep 1, 2015, 3:26 pm
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BUT I think this is all moot if a UA MP challenge with typically is ONLY UA/UX operated flights.
Sep 1, 2015, 3:30 pm
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Premier members earn a minimum of 500 Premier qualifying miles on all eligible purchased fare classes. For flights within Canada and between Canada and the U.S., Central America, Mexico or the Caribbean, Premier members earn a minimum of 125 base miles on S, T, A, L and K purchased fare classes.
Sep 1, 2015, 5:57 pm
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Sep 1, 2015, 8:29 pm
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Please note that qualifying activity for this promotion includes PQM and PQS earned on flights operated by United, United Express or Star Alliance partner airlines during the Challenge Period, including fare class bonus PQM and PQS; however, any other bonus PQM and PQS, promotional PQM and PQS, and/or credit card PQM do not count toward the Qualifying Travel Requirements
Sep 1, 2015, 8:52 pm
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You need to look down the UA AirNZ chart to "Trans-Tasman flights between New Zealand and Australia and Pacific Islands flights"
https://www.united.com/CMS/en-US/mar...spx?ItemId=379
V class is not listed so zilch UA miles, and I expect nil PQM
https://www.united.com/CMS/en-US/mar...spx?ItemId=379
V class is not listed so zilch UA miles, and I expect nil PQM
Sep 1, 2015, 9:22 pm
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You need to look down the UA AirNZ chart to "Trans-Tasman flights between New Zealand and Australia and Pacific Islands flights"
https://www.united.com/CMS/en-US/mar...spx?ItemId=379
V class is not listed so zilch UA miles, and I expect nil PQM
https://www.united.com/CMS/en-US/mar...spx?ItemId=379
V class is not listed so zilch UA miles, and I expect nil PQM
Sep 1, 2015, 11:57 pm
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This?
Hidden under "Additional conditions" on More information about earning PQD
Hidden under "Additional conditions" on More information about earning PQD
If a partner flight is not eligible to earn award miles, then it is also not eligible to earn Premier qualifying miles, segments or dollars.
Sep 1, 2015, 11:58 pm
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Hidden under "Additional conditions" on More information about earning PQD
If a partner flight is not eligible to earn award miles, then it is also not eligible to earn Premier qualifying miles, segments or dollars.
Sep 3, 2015, 9:47 pm
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Yep that is it - took me four email roundtrips to the Premier MP desk to get that from them, so good find.
A disappointing event for me - could go same price Air New Zealand coach or Emirates first - chose the coach in order to get a few miles and PQM/PQD. Miles disappeared when I discovered you had to scroll down to discover that New Zealand to Australia is not considered an international flight by Air New Zealand, PQM/PQD disappeared after the extended conversation ending with that "hidden" reference.
A disappointing event for me - could go same price Air New Zealand coach or Emirates first - chose the coach in order to get a few miles and PQM/PQD. Miles disappeared when I discovered you had to scroll down to discover that New Zealand to Australia is not considered an international flight by Air New Zealand, PQM/PQD disappeared after the extended conversation ending with that "hidden" reference.