Dayvan_Cowboy

Just curious, but has it been confirmed that Y+ is also going 3-4-3? It seems with the seat increase Y+ could stay 2-5-2 (or 3-3-3) and Y- could be 3-4-3 and hit the new seat count.

Kacee

Based on my experiences on WN, the technology is there. UA's is just unreliable.

Depending on aircraft, the content selection can also be incredibly weak. On EWR-RDU last week on a 738, 90% of the selections were movies, which makes zero sense on a 70 minute flight. They didn't have a single tv show I wanted to watch. Compare with that AV, CX, or TG (recent experiences) where they have entire seasons of high end tv loaded (Fargo, True Detective, etc.).

mduell

If they don't put the 50 seaters on long flights, those markets will lose frequency and/or diverse network access.

lensman

I wonder if we will see them on the SFO/LAX-EWR PS routes? It seems to me that what UA needs on that route is more BF seats to sell, not more coach seats. The 28 BF domestic 777 is the same number as the pmUA 757.

I wonder if UA has the fleet capacity to allocate some internationally configured 772s to SFO-EWR? That's what they really need to get PS F capacity into the market.

JOSECONLSCREW28

The domestic 777s will fly main land HNL - GUM - NRT routes some domestic hub to hub. And no outside of the few months that the 3-cabin 777 is on LAX/SFO - EWR there won't be any 3-cabin 777s on the route after that Time frame. And remember while the 3-cabin 777s are flying the route F inventory will be zeroed out and service will be treated as the other PS flights using the 757.

halls120

They might start out buying on price, but when they see what they get, some have second thoughts.

Their next vacation that involved flying was on DL, by the way.

cerealmarketer

AA is not installing any AVOD on the nose to tail reconfigured US Airways A319s that started coming online last last year. Completely counter to what the legacy AA 319s had installed.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...solidated.html

The USA Today article references there will be holders designed for both phones and tablets in the seats of the UA 777s, if that's the case a big step forward.

Reality is AVOD with large components for each seat will become archaic. Interestingly enough, the big technology hurdle is crash testing of large tablet screens (aviation AVOD screens are plastic).

Never bet against technology getting faster and more reliable.

And never bet against airlines having an opportunity to reduce weight.

As for biz class...Guam seems to operate in a different era.

28 seats forward of door 2...could see...

4 rows of 2x2x2 seats, plus a pair of seats where the forward lav is now, and the other pair the opposite side of row 1.

Question is whether they go with the legacy CO version of the seat.

Or, will they go the full recycle route....and take the UA 2x2x2 seat modules from the 767-300s that are going from 3 class to 2 class.

LaserSailor

Lie flat F with no AVOD is exactly all I want to pay for.

JoeC4025

Does anyone know what kind of seats will be going on the 777 3-4-3 reconfiguration? Is it going to be the BE Aerospace slimlines on the 737s?

dmurphynj

WiFi + Streaming - with in-seat power available - is better in just about every way. Ditch the screens and replace with a tablet holder. Don't need 'em.

Who doesn't travel with either a smartphone or a tablet or a laptop these days?

Now, if they can add live streaming of DirecTV to the stored content streaming, that'd be the best of all worlds.

The only thing I ever watch on the IFE is the flight map.... And even that, I can just use the unitedwifi.com page to replace.

Amen.

goodeats21

For me, this is the worst news to come out of United in a long, long time.

Is it confirmed that E+ is also going {HD}?

REPUBLIC757

2009-2012: United spends money to retrofit 2-5-2 777s to IPTE including installing brand new F, J, and Y seats with AVOD.

2016: United rips out RELATIVELY NEW AVOD SYSTEMS in favor of high density aircraft with nothing.

To me, they wasted tons of money to retrofit 777s only to gut them a few years later. And when AA & DL are taking delivery of new and retrofitted aircraft with AVOD installed?

REPUBLIC757

It's hard to defend this move. You know darn well based on threads here that the servers are going to break. UA's streaming system is not reliable at all. I vote with my wallet and won't bother to be putting up with it. Maybe at dumpy EWR you'll have to suck it up and deal.

PTahCha

The article only mentioned that they are adding wi-fi and streaming. Nothing about removing AVOD.

FWIW, UA is adding content streaming on planes that already have AVOD.

fly18725

There are reliability issues with streaming and hard-wired IFE. Mature streaming platforms are more reliable since there are many, many fewer pieces of hardware.

What makes America great is that we have multiple airlines to choose from. If hard-wired, seat-back IFE is an important part of your personal value proposition on domestic flights, there are two airlines that can guarantee you a screen on every domestic flight.