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There are two versions of this configuration. They have the same number of seats in each cabin, however the rear lavatory configuration is different.

United's website now refers to these configurations as Version 3 and Version 4.

Version 3: United Domestic 777 "High Density" Configuration ("Version 3")



Version 4: United Domestic 777 "High Density" Configuration ("Version 4")
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Old Mar 10, 16, 2:05 am
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Originally Posted by EmailKid View Post
And why did she choose Allegiant?

Price

OTAs are starting to include additional info including pitch, but as JOSECONLSCREW28 correctly points out, people, especially Kettles, buy on price @:-)

And no, I'm not implying anything about your daughter
They might start out buying on price, but when they see what they get, some have second thoughts.

Their next vacation that involved flying was on DL, by the way.
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Old Mar 10, 16, 6:41 am
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Originally Posted by REPUBLIC757 View Post
I think it's really going to suck. The configuration is super tight and there's no AVOD. Per usual, wait for the server system to crash or break and then FA's have to deal with a crowded plane full of angry people.

I'm curious of what research UA conducts about IFE because while AA & DL install new AVOD systems, UA insists on streaming. The technology isn't there yet at all.
AA is not installing any AVOD on the nose to tail reconfigured US Airways A319s that started coming online last last year. Completely counter to what the legacy AA 319s had installed.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...solidated.html

The USA Today article references there will be holders designed for both phones and tablets in the seats of the UA 777s, if that's the case a big step forward.

Reality is AVOD with large components for each seat will become archaic. Interestingly enough, the big technology hurdle is crash testing of large tablet screens (aviation AVOD screens are plastic).

Never bet against technology getting faster and more reliable.

And never bet against airlines having an opportunity to reduce weight.

As for biz class...Guam seems to operate in a different era.

28 seats forward of door 2...could see...

4 rows of 2x2x2 seats, plus a pair of seats where the forward lav is now, and the other pair the opposite side of row 1.

Question is whether they go with the legacy CO version of the seat.

Or, will they go the full recycle route....and take the UA 2x2x2 seat modules from the 767-300s that are going from 3 class to 2 class.
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Old Mar 10, 16, 7:36 am
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Originally Posted by REPUBLIC757 View Post
I read that USA Today article and it seems like UA is ripping out the IPTE AVOD in favor of steaming? Can you imagine lie flat F seats with no AVOD? That's insane.

This airline's management is so retarded. I hope people write in about this.
Lie flat F with no AVOD is exactly all I want to pay for.

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Old Mar 10, 16, 9:04 am
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Does anyone know what kind of seats will be going on the 777 3-4-3 reconfiguration? Is it going to be the BE Aerospace slimlines on the 737s?
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Old Mar 10, 16, 9:19 am
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Originally Posted by REPUBLIC757 View Post
I read that USA Today article and it seems like UA is ripping out the IPTE AVOD in favor of steaming? Can you imagine lie flat F seats with no AVOD? That's insane.

This airline's management is so retarded. I hope people write in about this.
WiFi + Streaming - with in-seat power available - is better in just about every way. Ditch the screens and replace with a tablet holder. Don't need 'em.

Who doesn't travel with either a smartphone or a tablet or a laptop these days?

Now, if they can add live streaming of DirecTV to the stored content streaming, that'd be the best of all worlds.

The only thing I ever watch on the IFE is the flight map.... And even that, I can just use the unitedwifi.com page to replace.

Originally Posted by LaserSailor
Lie flat F with no AVOD is exactly all I want to pay for.
Amen.

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Old Mar 10, 16, 9:43 am
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Originally Posted by ski131 View Post
USA Today says the reconfigured domestic 777-200's will have 364 seats (28C and 336Y) with 10 abreast in Y. Assuming the 28 C flat beds are all forward of 2L like the current 32 C recliners, it seems strange that the plane would only gain 20 Y seats. Does this mean E+ will remain 9 abreast?

Other things to note, it says updates will occur between May 2016 and May 2017 and that Y will continue with ISP/Streaming but no TVs.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/travel...777s/81519220/
For me, this is the worst news to come out of United in a long, long time.

Is it confirmed that E+ is also going {HD}?

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Old Mar 10, 16, 10:03 am
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Originally Posted by JOSECONLSCREW28 View Post
How dare UA not consult with the people of FT when doing fleet mods. The 19 777s getting reconfigured are getting completely New seats and the AVOD systems aren't compatible with them . You do realize there's more to flying then AVOD don't you? Outside of FT most people choose based on price and schedule they could care less about AVOD.
2009-2012: United spends money to retrofit 2-5-2 777s to IPTE including installing brand new F, J, and Y seats with AVOD.

2016: United rips out RELATIVELY NEW AVOD SYSTEMS in favor of high density aircraft with nothing.

To me, they wasted tons of money to retrofit 777s only to gut them a few years later. And when AA & DL are taking delivery of new and retrofitted aircraft with AVOD installed?

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Old Mar 10, 16, 10:08 am
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Originally Posted by LaserSailor View Post
Lie flat F with no AVOD is exactly all I want to pay for.
It's hard to defend this move. You know darn well based on threads here that the servers are going to break. UA's streaming system is not reliable at all. I vote with my wallet and won't bother to be putting up with it. Maybe at dumpy EWR you'll have to suck it up and deal.

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Old Mar 10, 16, 10:20 am
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Originally Posted by REPUBLIC757 View Post
I read that USA Today article and it seems like UA is ripping out the IPTE AVOD in favor of steaming? Can you imagine lie flat F seats with no AVOD? That's insane.

This airline's management is so retarded. I hope people write in about this.
Originally Posted by REPUBLIC757 View Post
It's hard to defend this move. You know darn well based on threads here that the servers are going to break. UA's streaming system is not reliable at all. I vote with my wallet and won't bother to be putting up with it. Maybe at dumpy EWR you'll have to suck it up and deal.
The article only mentioned that they are adding wi-fi and streaming. Nothing about removing AVOD.

FWIW, UA is adding content streaming on planes that already have AVOD.
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Old Mar 10, 16, 10:21 am
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Originally Posted by REPUBLIC757 View Post
It's hard to defend this move. You know darn well based on threads here that the servers are going to break. UA's streaming system is not reliable at all. I vote with my wallet and won't bother to be putting up with it.
There are reliability issues with streaming and hard-wired IFE. Mature streaming platforms are more reliable since there are many, many fewer pieces of hardware.

What makes America great is that we have multiple airlines to choose from. If hard-wired, seat-back IFE is an important part of your personal value proposition on domestic flights, there are two airlines that can guarantee you a screen on every domestic flight.
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Old Mar 10, 16, 10:38 am
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Originally Posted by PTahCha View Post
The article only mentioned that they are adding wi-fi and streaming. Nothing about removing AVOD.

FWIW, UA is adding content streaming on planes that already have AVOD.
Let's hope - unfortunately they are not straightforward in addressing the issue so that's bothersome.
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Old Mar 10, 16, 11:11 am
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Originally Posted by fly18725 View Post
There are reliability issues with streaming and hard-wired IFE. Mature streaming platforms are more reliable since there are many, many fewer pieces of hardware.

What makes America great is that we have multiple airlines to choose from. If hard-wired, seat-back IFE is an important part of your personal value proposition on domestic flights, there are two airlines that can guarantee you a screen on every domestic flight.
By your metric America has been getting consistenly worse over the past decade..
UA+Co+US+Delta+NW+SW+Alaska+AirTran+Virgin+AA..
Less than that now with mergers..
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Old Mar 10, 16, 12:22 pm
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Originally Posted by REPUBLIC757 View Post
It's hard to defend this move. You know darn well based on threads here that the servers are going to break. UA's streaming system is not reliable at all.
UA's AVOD systems aren't very reliable either, particularly the legacy CO platform. Freezes, reboots, and flat out giving up on it are common on a flight.
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Old Mar 10, 16, 12:51 pm
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Originally Posted by fly18725 View Post
What makes America great is that we have multiple airlines to choose from. If hard-wired, seat-back IFE is an important part of your personal value proposition on domestic flights, there are two airlines that can guarantee you a screen on every domestic flight.
That's a fair point.

My issues with UA IFE have more to do with lack of content than hardware. Though I've had my share of problems with the current UA streaming system.

I'm much more concerned about 10 across and only 28 J seats.
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Old Mar 10, 16, 1:01 pm
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Originally Posted by Kacee View Post
That's a fair point.

My issues with UA IFE have more to do with lack of content than hardware. Though I've had my share of problems with the current UA streaming system.

I'm much more concerned about 10 across and only 28 J seats.
Amen.

The IFE is a blip when compared to the confirmation that Y is going 10 across.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/travel...777s/81519220/

I can make do with all kind of entertainment solutions, but being squished against seatmates is a deal-killer.

Seems like everyone has sort of buried the lead here...
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