emcampbe

As I've said in other posts, would probably be a good idea to have proof of whatever address you use to show it is legitimate.

While UA does not proactively enforce out-of-country address changes, at least not yet (unlike DL - where you must attach proof with your request), it wouldn't surprise me to see UA start doing it at some point. It also wouldn't surprise me to see them request proof at some point either for all who have changed their address to out of country, randomly, or for those whose travel patterns warrant. We haven't seen it yet for sure, but I am positive they won't be afraid to enforce the terms on MP fraud with those trying to game the system to avoid PQD.

chavala

I so hope they do!

bocastephen

Jealous because you don't have a legitimate address to use outside the US?

LaserSailor

At the 1K level, you had better be squeaky clean. I think we will see clawbacks too. Onus of proof is not on UA, its on the flyer of course. If you are originating 100k of flights out of the US, and claiming Uzbekistan residence, good luck.

bocastephen

The T+C do not establish nor support this burden of proof, nor is it reasonable. Many people fly different carriers and alliances depending on destination. If someone has a photo ID, lease, mortgage, utility bill or other legitimate evidence of a foreign address, there is nothing in the T+C that give United the right to ignore that evidence because of flying patterns they perceive through the company's own lens. The T+C does not include tests for foreign physical presence or restrict the amount of time a member can spend in the US - that is just over the top silly.

If asked for proof of foreign residency, and you supply said proof from the list of permitted documents, it should be sufficient....anything else reported here is just blathering from people angry they need to do the 10k because they don't have their own proof of residency, or angry they might be forced to share a plane with a 1K who didn't cough up the full 10k.

DrewGzy

I am actually a Miles and More member as well but prefer to accrue my mileage with United because I use it more for personal travel.

In my case (and in my opinion), yes, the PQD thing is BS. I have already spent over $10,000 in travel with Lufthansa but United doesn't recognize that money spent. I wouldn't have an issue with it except being that they are both Star Alliance I would think there would be more of an alliance! This is not the only issue I have had going from United to Lufthansa and it just added more of a distaste to me.

With all that, thank you again for the help. I believe my problem has been solved and I will continue to lurk around the forums

chavala

I'm not talking about people with legit foreign addresses, but the ones who "suddenly" moved to Canada when the new rule came into effect. I hope they get caught.
And I'm already 1K for next year and had no problem with the PQD. Looking forward to the thinning of the masses.

UA-NYC

You're sorely mistaken if you think the "thinning of the masses" is magically going to lead to better UG rates, less crowded boarding areas, etc.

chavala

It certainly can't hurt!

UA-NYC

Unless enough formerly loyal/HVF flyers keep booking away (continuing the PRASM decline relative to peers), forcing the airline to keep the cuts coming ("multi-million $" food investment not withstanding), get more aggressive w/P fares and any TODs, etc.

RNE

Oddly, United would prefer that you pay it to earn the RDMs you then use on its flights. Go figure.

bocastephen

Get caught how? If they have reasonable documentation to prove "a" residence in Canada, there is no problem.

Jet'Dillo

How is UA tracking Chase spend ?

I'll hit the 25K for this year, no problem(not hard to do in a 2-geek household in the Bay Area, just shifted some purchases from one household CC to my UAMPV), but I have a couple questions about timing. Are they looking at the total charged amount for the year or the total payments for the year ? If the latter that would suggest I need to have the 25K by the end of November rather than 12/31 because my December activity won't post until January.

IOW, is this really spend that's being tracked or payments ?

Does waiver status get updated like crossing an elite boundary(posts within a day or so of making it, might have to get a CSR to hit return on their keyboard a couple times to reflect) or is it done EOTY ?

Looking forward to the "not" part of "not met" going away soon.

Time traveller

I think it would be easy for "dual citizens" to use a foreign address of a family member, even though the member rarely visit his/her home country. Having a passport from the foreign country as a dual citizen should be helpful in demonstrating residency. I know many Americans with dual Canadian or UK citizenship. Legitimate way to avoid PQD requirement?

wino77

What are premier Qualifying Dollars and how do I use them??

Thanks