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Old May 21, 2013 | 3:11 pm
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A quick compare & contrast - BA vs CX, LHR-HKG and back

In the past few months I've had to make a couple of trips from London to Hong Kong. Both in business class, one on Cathay Pacific, the other on British Airways. I thought a quick comparison might be of interest....

I flew a quick round-trip LHR-HKG in January 2013, CX J class. Quite a lot has been written about the airline so Ill just run through some headline points.
Friendly staff at Heathrow who just seemed to get it with regard to customer service. This was both at the ticketing desk and also in the lounge. T3 in general sucks especially the trek through duty free but the CX lounge was very good a little smaller than I was thinking it would be, but the made to order noodles are a nice touch.

Boarding was just one airbridge but they obviously didnt call the flight in the lounge until other passengers had boarded, so no hanging around.
Upper deck on the 747 with the coffin seats is plain odd. As has been widely reported, that remains an epic fail by Cathay.

Only one round of pre-flight drinks. Was very impressed with Aer Lingus who just kept the glasses topped up before taking off from Dublin last year.
Food was OK I had the Szechuan chicken but it wasnt really all that spicy. I was also left feeling a bit hungry afterwards the portion wasnt all that big.
Sleep quality not great. I found the seat uncomfortable, a bit hard and my feet kept hanging off the end, resulting in a couple of collisions with passengers, waking me up and giving them a bit of a surprise, too!
Arrival into HKG we were late landing but obviously just got in before the mad rush that starts at 5pm and I was through immigration in a couple of minutes.

On the return, I arrived on the ferry from Macau. Hong Kong airport is confusing to navigate in that hub at the base of the main pier. This time I did want to do some shopping but it took ages to find the right stores, although the information desk were very helpful!

The first contact I had with CX staff was at the entrance to the lounge I elected to use the Cabin as we were going from gate 29. It was busy and has a cramped feeling to it. Im sure they could do more with the deli offering, and the hot food was pretty poor. I think when you have a flash airport it can be difficult for the lounges to match expectations, but I will say I think that BA has achieved this in Terminal 5.

Dual airbridges to board this 777 flight, with the new business class seats^. A vast improvement over the previous iteration, but I dont think comparisons with F on other airlines are accurate. The seat is again on the hard side, you dont have the same amount of personal space (although the shelf between me and the window is nice) and ultimately its still business class. The orchids are however a classy touch!

Uninspiring lunch menu the lamb was the only thing that appealed to me but the casserole presentation didnt win any points. At least it was tender and packed full of flavour, however the starter was poor, as was the salad. The Garlic bread was cold, and so was the red wine!

Again, crew keeping out of the way to manage the jetlag Im trying not to sleep on this flight (nasty daytime Asia -> UK sector) but theres not much service. Has been one pass asking for snacks, but again the extra privacy of these seats means you cant easily make eye contact with the crew.

So the best bit? Id say the lounge at Heathrow. The worst? Thats a draw between the coffin seats on the 747 and the Cabin lounge. Oh, and of course the fact that we can hop on a plane and fly six thousand miles in a fair degree of comfort in a matter of hours probably shouldnt go without mention either.
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So a few months later (April 2013) and I find myself doing the same journey, but this time on BA and rather than on my own, my wife came along too. Friendly BA staff at Heathrow for the quick visa check, and fast track security (South) was indeed fast a couple of people infront but it all kept moving along.

We made our way to Galleries South and I dont think Ive ever seen it so quiet 4pm on a Thursday. Enjoyed a couple of drinks then headed over to the B lounge when the gate came up. Bizarrely, Ive never seen this place so busy! Left it until about 25 mins before departure, headed down to the gate & walked straight onto the plane, before settling into seats 64J&K on the upper deck.

One round of drinks before takeoff, then service started. Had the Hong Kong chicken for my main course tasty and quite filling. Crew werent very engaged at all, though.

Sleep quality the seats are definitely better than the Cathay coffins, but light & noise from the galley was a problem.

Breakfast was good, too. Had the full English looked and tasted great!
We landed on time but only 1 airbridge in use. Parked at gate 19 so its a decent walk through the terminal. Also some menacing looking armed police hanging around by the end of the airbridge. It was just after 1pm, HKG immigration was very quiet and we were in a car heading to the hotel about 30 minutes after wheels down.

On the return we arrived at the airport around 8.45pm. We were directed to the first class check in as all the business desks were busy. Boarding passes issued quickly and we were on our way. No real hold up at immigration or security then we popped down to the Cathay Pacific lounge at Gate 2 The Wing.

This was way better than The Cabin, which Id found disappointing earlier in the year. Had a very refreshing shower and a drink then headed over to the BA gates. Fortunately found the secret corridor that cuts along the back of the duty free shops, saving a good few hundred metres of walking.

We could have dipped into the BA/Qantas lounge but there wasnt really time and within minutes boarding was underway.

Dedicated airbridge for First & Business class so no hold up there and again we had the same seats on the upper deck.

Quick glass of champagne before an on time departure. I had what was described at the Nyonya chicken for dinner a very creamy dish that I wish Id avoided. Oh well, the cheesecake and the cheese & biscuits for desert made up for that! Crew better than on the outbound and at least we were addressed by name when they took the meal order, which is a nice touch.
Sleep quality was a bit better on the return as I ended up using the eye mask and earplugs. Dozed until about 40mins before landing, quick glass of juice then we were ready to land. Very quickly through immigration and into the arrivals lounge for a shower and some breakfast.

So the best bit? That Cathay lounge in Hong Kong was great, as was the ability to doze/sleep almost until we got to London.

Worst bits? Indifferent crew on the outbound and the meal I had on the way back to London.

Overall verdict this has come in closer than Id expected and I think BA may just nudge it as the winner.
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Old May 22, 2013 | 8:01 am
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interesting stuff, relying on UUA for my business class flying. sadly i dont get to compare other airlines!
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Very nice comparison. I used to think that the hard product in the air was 99% of the enjoyment on a trip but more I give significantly more value to the service now (as I get older). One of the reasons that I say this is that on my flights on CX in J, I really enjoyed the seats new cirrus ones) much more than CW , even on the UD. I have sat in rows 11 and 12 on CX's 777 which are in a small and quiet cabin although not as exclusive feeling as the UD on a 747. If I compare flying alone on CX to CW, CX wins for me. I don't care for the rear facing seat and the face-to-face arrangement in CW even with the divider up. The single window seat on CX is nicer to me.
However, I have always had excellent crew on BA (only flown YVR-LHR though) and CX crew have been perfunctory. An interesting contrast was YVR-HKG-YVR last year in F; outbound crew were HKG based and genuinely friendly whereas the inbound crew was YVR based and although polite, their "attitude" was extremely apparent. Well see how BA F compares this summer.
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Old May 22, 2013 | 11:51 am
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Originally Posted by stewaran
interesting stuff, relying on UUA for my business class flying. sadly i dont get to compare other airlines!
For what it's worth, we UUA'd on BA, and I bought the miles required to fly on CX using the Alaska Air scheme. Given the CX fight had no saturday night stay, this made sense financially, so the two weren't that far apart in overall cost - maybe 1k for BA vs 1.3k for CX.

I will say however that I was agnostic over the price when doing the review.
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A quick compare & contrast - BA vs CX, LHR-HKG and back

That's a bargain especially on the HKG route
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Old May 27, 2013 | 10:04 pm
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My tip is always take the midnight flights out of HKG, eat in the lounge before you fly and go straight to sleep.The Cabin is not a good lounge, the Wing or Pier is far more nicer and better than Galleries in T5. From LHR to HKG I always take the early afternoon flight and eat on board, couple of drinks and then head down as in my mind its now night time in HKG. I always make sure I am not on a 747 now, all be it I have flown so many times in the old coffin class and normally bag the front of the upper deck and always sleep well. They will all be gone soon but worth checking your flight and aircraft type before booking. I have to say CX beats BA everytime with service in all departments and food is food, never had a bad meal in over 200 flights long haul with CX.
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