Cerberus

I have a bit of history with the Surface line. I started out with the MS Surface Pro 3 i7 fully loaded; then jumped to the MS Surface Book i7 fully loaded (first year). I had no issues or problems with either units. I travelled quite a bit with them -- honestly, the SP3 was awesome from a size/weight perspective but screen was small.

When the new 2016 MBP came out, I went back to Mac. Size, fit, finish -- and what I use it for with the rest of the Apple eco-sphere; for me it works. I like the Microsoft products but I find them to see be lacking on the OS front, too many issues ongoing requiring troubleshooting, etc. And yes, like others, I found the case for the SB and SP3 to get dinged up easily a lot. Awesome screen on the SB but I prefer my 15" on the MBP. Touch is largely overrated to me. Just my two cents.

joshwex90

So get a Surface Laptop! https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/surf...aptop/overview

chipmaster

LOL, all our phones are iPhones, my kids I converted to MACs and as in school that is the dominate platform. Now sadly when they come back to the corporate world no escaping MS

Gaucho100K

Thanks to all for your great input.... greatly appreciated !!! ^ ^

Is there a date set for the new versions of these machines to come out....? If I read correctly, there is some sort of big MS gathering in the next couple of days and new Hardware and Software will be announced, or....?

Thanks !!!

Error 601

That is comically overpriced.

comptr

Here is some more info about the new Surface book: https://www.thurrott.com/mobile/micr...laptop-preview

Probably latter this year the Surface Pro 4 & Surface Book will be updated too.

KCZ

That price for the i7/16GB/512GB is less than the price for the SP4 because it includes the keyboard. Of course it doesn't appear to have a digitized screen.

As mentioned above, I had 4 SP's fail in less than 6 months and wasted a lot of time dealing with MS support. One day not long ago, I spent nine (9) hours on the phone with MS. I am now retired so I can make time for that, disgustedly, but I can't imagine how anyone who is employed and traveling will have the time to deal with MS's incompetence should any problems occur.

Gaucho100K

I apologize for the dumb question, but, given the launch of the Surface Laptop.... does this mean that the Surface Book will no longer be updated and will be discontinued in favor of the Surface Laptop - which would 'replace' it in the MS product line?

If this is the case, it would be a dissapointment for me, as one of the features I liked most about the S Book is that I could have a 2 in 1 solution of both a laptop and a tablet......

ryw

My *guess* is no because they've been targeting 2 different markets. The Surface Book seems aimed at professionals who want a 2 in 1 while the Surface Laptop is being aimed at students who would otherwise get a MacBook or schools that use Chromebooks. (Note that the Surface Laptop runs Windows 10 S, which only allows windows apps to run, it costs an extra $50 to upgrade to the regular version of Windows).

Though I would probably expect Microsoft to announce a Surface Pro 5 before a new SB.

Kagehitokiri

i own macs + surface book for tablet that is computer (apple refuses to do one)

i just bought mac book air because i wanted regular USBs before they 'upgrade'

dont think surface laptop has detachable screen, so do not see a reason to get

mceagle555

I had the Surface Book for 6 months and loved the touchpad & keyboard, but honestly felt it was a bit heavy and didn't love the "gap." I switched to the Spectre X360 and couldn't be happier. Absolutely amazing machine and great battery life.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-spect...?skuId=5713177

joshwex90

Free upgrade until December

What "gap?"

tmiw

I think mceagle555 is referring to the space between the keyboard and display when it's closed.

Gaucho100K

Funny but I dont mind the "gap".... think it look kinda' cool....

Gaucho100K

Anybody else have feedback on experiences with the Surface line of products...?