SeaPort Airlines: "Outside of TSA jurisdiction"
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SeaPort Airlines: "Outside of TSA jurisdiction"
Woo hoo!
Happy to forgo 129 UA EQM for this. ^^^
Portland-to-Seattle airline starts service
BY MARIAH SUMMERS
The West Linn Tidings, Jun 19, 2008
Travelers will soon have a new way to fly from Portland to the Seattle area.
Beginning June 30, SeaPort Airlines will offer 40-minute flights from Portland International Airport to Boeing Field, which is about six miles from downtown Seattle.
With a month-long introductory fare of $75 one way or $149 roundtrip to Boeing Field, SeaPort is about the same cost of Horizon Air, which offers similar flight service from PDX to SeaTac.
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Also, the type of aircraft that SeaPort operates falls outside of the Transportation Security Administration’s jurisdiction, so the airline has no TSA checkpoints.
“We cut travel time in half,” said Craford. “There’s no waiting in lines, no taking off your shoes, no throwing your water bottle away and walking a half mile from your car to the terminal.”
BY MARIAH SUMMERS
The West Linn Tidings, Jun 19, 2008
Travelers will soon have a new way to fly from Portland to the Seattle area.
Beginning June 30, SeaPort Airlines will offer 40-minute flights from Portland International Airport to Boeing Field, which is about six miles from downtown Seattle.
With a month-long introductory fare of $75 one way or $149 roundtrip to Boeing Field, SeaPort is about the same cost of Horizon Air, which offers similar flight service from PDX to SeaTac.
[...]
Also, the type of aircraft that SeaPort operates falls outside of the Transportation Security Administration’s jurisdiction, so the airline has no TSA checkpoints.
“We cut travel time in half,” said Craford. “There’s no waiting in lines, no taking off your shoes, no throwing your water bottle away and walking a half mile from your car to the terminal.”
Last edited by essxjay; Jun 20, 2008 at 9:32 pm
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I can easily see a boom in Private Airports and Private scheduled flights, possibly where one has to buy a 'membership' to fly the airline in order to get the prices, maybe buying part 'ownership' for a couple dollars a month making t a coop.
There are already private airports, I could see many more if the conditions continue! Possibly to the point where flying 'private' is only 10%-20% more than other ways but no TSA hassle, no lines, no ATC delays, just Customs in some cases.
There are already private airports, I could see many more if the conditions continue! Possibly to the point where flying 'private' is only 10%-20% more than other ways but no TSA hassle, no lines, no ATC delays, just Customs in some cases.
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I can easily see a boom in Private Airports and Private scheduled flights, possibly where one has to buy a 'membership' to fly the airline in order to get the prices, maybe buying part 'ownership' for a couple dollars a month making t a coop.
There are already private airports, I could see many more if the conditions continue! Possibly to the point where flying 'private' is only 10%-20% more than other ways but no TSA hassle, no lines, no ATC delays, just Customs in some cases.
There are already private airports, I could see many more if the conditions continue! Possibly to the point where flying 'private' is only 10%-20% more than other ways but no TSA hassle, no lines, no ATC delays, just Customs in some cases.
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This has nothing to do with it being a charter or private flight. This is just regularly scheduled service on aircraft small enough that they are not required to include TSA screening. There are already commercial flights in Alaska and N. Dakota (I think, though possibly Montana) where the flights are not TSA screened. On arrival connecting passengers are transferred land-side to clear security if they need to connect onward.
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This isn't about private/commercial, it's about the size and type of aircraft. Both the US and Canada have commercial airports without screening, just not usually to places most people have any desire or need to travel to.
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If the destination has no possibility of an airside connection to another (screened) flight or does not deposit the passengers into a secure area then outbound screening is not required. I have seen this applied to Dash 8s, Convairs and HS748s, none of which are "small" planes.
I have noticed a couple of apparent loopholes which I'm obviously not going to detail, and for all I know there are unseen safeguards in those instances.
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I fly seaplanes on Seaborne Airlines regularly without any TSA screening, as well as chartered service from SIG-anywhere in the caribbean without TSA screening.
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This is great news for those of us who hate the TSA. Contrary to the TSA's own egomania, skipping TSA screening is now a selling a point. Wow! Take that, Kip. The TSA always acts like, "well we're just doing what you (the public) wants."
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Wrong Thread?
Landing Gear, did you end up on the wrong runway?
I'd love it if I could fly from a non-TSA field or via corporate or private aircraft. I agree that "Avoid the Hastle of the TSA" will be a marketing tag line that grows in popularity.
I'd love it if I could fly from a non-TSA field or via corporate or private aircraft. I agree that "Avoid the Hastle of the TSA" will be a marketing tag line that grows in popularity.
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Here's the thread where my comments should have gone originally. Make perfect sense there.
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