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Q. What is a Wikipost?

A Wikipost contains content that appears at the top of a thread, usually used to summarize important information in multi-page threads: "This is a community-maintained wikipost containing the most important information from this thread. You may start or edit a Wikipost once you have been on FT for 90 days and have made 90 posts." (Written at the top of every Wikipost.)


Q. Why are Wikiposts here? What is their purpose?

Threads that have high interest can grow very quickly, making it tiresome to sort through sometimes hundreds of posts to find information. A Wikipost is designed to contain a summary of relevant information, and may contain links to especially relevant posts, related threads and off-site resources. Any member with "90/90" can update obsolete information or update Wikipost information, and of course there's plenty of space to discuss or ask about more specific details.


Q. What display modes are offered for Wikiposts?

There are three modes of wiki post display: (c/o IBobi)
1. "Summary view" (default) -- this shows the top of the wikipost only.

2. Full display (when you click "Click here to display full Wiki") -- this shows the whole Wikipost.

3. Hidden (when you click the "-" sign at the top right) -- reduces this and ALL Wikiposts on FT to a narrow blue bar that says "Wikipost", until you click the "+" on one of them again, which will return them to default view.

(see more below)
Q. Can I link to a Wikipost?

Yes. Click on Wiki Link on the upper right of the wiki and the Wikipost will display ax a single post. You can copy the link and paste it elsewhere. Click "back" in your browser to return to the page you were on.


Q. Why are so many threads with Wikiposts concentrated on the front pages of some fora? cx

The most popular / used threads are often those with complicated content - frequent flyer or guest program changes, securing awards, etc. These are the threads most likely to have Wikiposts summarizing key points.


Q. How / why did Wikiposts come about on FT?

Wikiposts came about after requests from members to Internet Brands and a lot of forethought, followed by Beta testing. They are considered a valuable asset to FlyerTalk, and a viable and "closer" alternative to maintaining an off site, separate wiki.


Q. What do "wiki" and "Wikipost" mean?

The word "wiki" (wee-kee) is Hawaiian Polynisian for "fast" or "quick". Here, a Wikipost offers a quick look at the topic covered by a thread.


Q. Can I see a listing of Wikiposts?

Yes. Up in the dark blue navigation bar, a little below the FlyerTalk logo, it says "Flyertalk [sic, should be a capital T] Wiki." Click that and then "Show all Wiki [sic, should be plural]" from the sub-menu.

(Thanks to jackal)


Q. What do I do if I just don't want to read the Wikiposts?

Just continue browsing normally. Only minimized Wikiposts (a few lines) will be revealed until you click on / touch the blue "Click here to display Full Wiki" line. The full Wikipost will only be displayed if you click the link to read it. Ignore the Wikipost if you don't want to read the information therein.


Q. What do I do if I feel there are too darn many Wikiposts?

You can go to the "Wikipost" blue menu bar at the top of a thread page and click on the "-" sign at the right end of the bar, which will minimize all wikis; you never have to see a Wikipost again. That information never has to intrude on your reading of FlyerTalk. And, of course you can turn wiki posts "on" by clicking the "+" in the same menu bar when you wish.)

Alternatively, you can go to your FT Profile, look at Your Control Panel, Edit Options. Toward the bottom of the page you'll see


Wikipost Hide All

Hide all Wiki Posts in Threads
Hide all wikiposts
Be sure that option is turned on to eliminate seeing wiki posts, off to reveal them once more.
Q. What are the alternatives to wikiposts in a large forum?


1) Multiple (dozens or even more) threads with members having to search them all for answers, or start a new one out of frustration, assuring information fragmentation and dispersion.

2) Mega threads with hundreds of posts to sort through for answers.

Thanks to wetrat0
Q. I can't open and edit a particular Wikipost! Why?

A few wiki posts may be locked by moderators to prevent making changes; these preferably should be clearly marked with an explanation.


Q. I can't even see Wikiposts! Why?

If you are using the mobile skin, you can not see Wikiposts at this time.

If otherwise and you can not see the wiki posts:

Assuming you are signed in, have been on FT 90 or more days and have made 90 or more posts:

In your FT Profile, look at Your Control Panel, Edit Options. Toward the bottom of the page you'll see

Wikipost Hide All

Hide all Wiki Posts in Threads
Hide all wikiposts
Be sure that option is turned off.


Q. How do I open and start a wikipost myself?

To create a wiki, go to the Thread Tools menu on the right of the thread menu bar, click / touch Create a Wikipost


Q. I've got "90/90"; how do I edit a wikipost?

To edit a wiki, expand by clicking / touching the "Click here to display full wiki" message, then see the Edit button in the lower right of the wiki.


Q. What formatting can I use to make a wikipost more "eye-tractive" and readable?

Wikis accepts a lot of common BBCode formatting, some of which is shown below - but not all.

Bold and colors work! strikeouts work, as does highlighting.

Sizes work as well, from larger than this to this.

However, names of threads like WikiPost problems are not being normalized. (URL links to FlyerTalk in posts will render such: "Wikipost" / wiki post questions, issues, discussion.

In Wikiposts, they will render as full URL: "Wikipost" / wiki post questions, issues, discussion (consolidated) look at the above URL to see how you can adjust that.

See Calchas' post #122 to read about the wiki history rendering.


Q. Can I embed or add illustrations or photos in Wikiposts?

Links to photographs and graphic images can be embedded in wikiposts; framed video links can not be, nor can images be attached as in posts.

Link to an extensive thread about embedding images in the Travel Photography forum.

Link to thread in Technical Support and Feedback forum on embedding images.

Q. Can I create "chapters" within in Wikiposts with internal links and anchor points?[

Yes; as of September 2016, you can. Here are the basics:

Using the tag "wikifrom" you can write a text, and the name of the anchor you want to point to like this:

Visit Chapter 1
Visit Chapter 2

Then you can use the tag "wikito" to allow easy wikipost navigation:


Chapter 1 - Monday
Some text here.


Chapter 2 - Tuesday
Some more text here.


(Here is how it looks without the closing bracket)

[wikifrom=chapter1]Visit Chapter 1[/wikifrom
[wikifrom=chapter2]Visit Chapter 2[/wikifrom

Then you can use the tag "wikito" to allow easy wikipost navigation:

[wikito]chapter1[/wikito
Chapter 1 - Monday
Some text here.

[wikito]chapter2[/wikito
Chapter 2 - Tuesday
Some more text here.

See post number 205, by IBtyen.
The WIKI SANDBOX:







Revised 7 Jan 2017 - JDiver
  • Testing out a bug
  • Every time the wiki is edited a blank bullet point gets added to this list.
  • testing
Will a new bullet appear if list is not at the bottom?
No
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Old Sep 14, 2016, 5:21 pm
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No problems here -- please post a link to a wiki thread that you're having problems editing...
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Old Sep 14, 2016, 6:32 pm
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Originally Posted by IBobi
No problems here -- please post a link to a wiki thread that you're having problems editing...
Working fine now!
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Old Oct 3, 2016, 2:42 am
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I'm experiencing a problem which is making it nearly impossible to determine whether or not said problem has previously been reported. I tried to use "Search this thread" to find posts wherein someone might have mentioned a problem using search, but "Search this thread" tells me all 310 posts (at the time) contain the word search. That appears to be because the word "search" appears in the Wikipost.

I first experienced this problem searching for the word "taxi" in a thread in a different forum. Taxi was used in the Wikipost of that thread, so Search listed every post in that thread as a hit for the word taxi.
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Old Oct 3, 2016, 9:49 am
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Originally Posted by ftnoob
I'm experiencing a problem which is making it nearly impossible to determine whether or not said problem has previously been reported. I tried to use "Search this thread" to find posts wherein someone might have mentioned a problem using search, but "Search this thread" tells me all 310 posts (at the time) contain the word search. That appears to be because the word "search" appears in the Wikipost.

I first experienced this problem searching for the word "taxi" in a thread in a different forum. Taxi was used in the Wikipost of that thread, so Search listed every post in that thread as a hit for the word taxi.
Ouch!

Thanks for posting this. I know Admin / Tech has been working on making Wikiposts searchable, and to me it's possibly this back room work that's causing this. We'll see what the Admin team says when they check in today.
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Old Oct 3, 2016, 6:36 pm
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Joel will be looking into this.

Any more detail you can give -- thread links etc, would help.
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Old Nov 7, 2016, 9:26 am
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Keyword search is now* returning all posts from a thread if that keyword is used in the wiki. Needless to say, this makes FT search even less useful than before.

Steps to reproduce:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/search.php

Search by Keyword: "sweetwater"
change dropdown to "Search Entire Posts"
Find posts from: A Week Ago
Show Results as: Posts
Search in Forums: Delta Air Lines | SkyMiles
-> Search Now

The first page of the search results** is all from Delta In-Flight Meal/Food Service: The Definitive Thread — 2016 Edition. If you open any of the listed posts, none of them contain the word "sweetwater" (unless you get very very lucky ) but the thread wiki does mention it.

Another way to reproduce is to start in that thread, go to the upper right and select Search this Thread > Advanced Search and put "sweetwater" in the keyword field. Again the search will return all posts in the thread.

*At least I don't remember it behaving this way before, say, 3-6 months ago.
**Don't know if these search links eventually expire or not
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Old Dec 29, 2016, 6:08 pm
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All of a sudden I can no longer edit wiki posts. I have well over 90 days and posts and have been editing them for quite a while.
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Old Dec 29, 2016, 6:31 pm
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Originally Posted by N639DL
All of a sudden I can no longer edit wiki posts. I have well over 90 days and posts and have been editing them for quite a while.
Confirmed you have edit.

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Old Dec 30, 2016, 10:56 am
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Originally Posted by IBxAnders
Confirmed you have edit.

...
It is working again. Thank you!

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Old Dec 31, 2016, 3:23 pm
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I'm getting an odd database-error message when I try to save (or even preview) edits to the wiki for http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/citi-...24-months.html

This isn't happening across all wikis. For example, I am still able to preview changes to the wiki above (that is, in the current thread) without any problems.
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Old Dec 31, 2016, 6:40 pm
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Unable to edit the wiki on this thread: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...ds-thread.html

Keeps on giving this message when I hit save changes: Name:  FT.JPG
Views: 406
Size:  51.2 KB
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Old Dec 31, 2016, 8:49 pm
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It appears wiki's are now visible in mobile view, via a drop-down chevron. Thanks for implementing that!
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Old Dec 31, 2016, 10:56 pm
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Originally Posted by N639DL
Unable to edit the wiki on this thread: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...ds-thread.html

Keeps on giving this message when I hit save changes: Attachment 24076
I had no problems opening that Wikipost to edit.

You may have hit a temporary database error, or you may have a cookie that needs to be deleted.
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Old Dec 31, 2016, 11:24 pm
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The wiki editor is now inserting an extra space at the start of every line when edits are saved. (Observed in multiple threads.) It would be good for it to stop doing that.
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Old Jan 1, 2017, 7:38 am
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Originally Posted by beltway
The wiki editor is now inserting an extra space at the start of every line when edits are saved. (Observed in multiple threads.) It would be good for it to stop doing that.
This is happening across all FT wikis, not just in isolated cases. A few moments ago I edited/saved http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showwiki.php?t=1739967, which now has the same issue. Oddly, the extra space in the source does not seem to affect display.
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