Increased Transparency in TB Votes
Mar 5, 2015, 11:19 am
#76
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That only works if we are also willing to close forums that fail to gain traction.
Mar 5, 2015, 11:35 am
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The question remains unanswered: how much traction is enough traction?
Mar 5, 2015, 1:09 pm
#78
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How about this:
I vote when I decide that I am satisfied in how I am going to vote based on the information available to me. It could be immediately; it could be just before the deadline.
Although I usually post how I voted and why publicly, if anyone has a question, just ask me.
I am not sure how I can increase transparency more than that...
I vote when I decide that I am satisfied in how I am going to vote based on the information available to me. It could be immediately; it could be just before the deadline.
Although I usually post how I voted and why publicly, if anyone has a question, just ask me.
I am not sure how I can increase transparency more than that...
Mar 5, 2015, 1:16 pm
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Mar 5, 2015, 6:11 pm
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Um, this issue first came up January 4th, the motion was made in late February.
Mar 5, 2015, 6:22 pm
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A former manager? How long since they've worked there? As far as renting more cars than anyone you know, that's not exactly a descriptive figure. If most of the people you know don't rent cars except perhaps once a year, then this mysterious person could rent cars three times a year and meet that criteria.
Mar 5, 2015, 10:01 pm
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A former manager? How long since they've worked there? As far as renting more cars than anyone you know, that's not exactly a descriptive figure. If most of the people you know don't rent cars except perhaps once a year, then this mysterious person could rent cars three times a year and meet that criteria.
Really scraping the bottom of the barrel here aren't we? I guess it's too much to expect a "hey good for you for actually taking this seriously". As to your questions:- The first person resigned I think two years ago, he's now a travel agent specializing in rental cars
- The second person rents hundreds of cars a year.
Your last sentence is borderline insulting, can't say I'm surprised though.
Mar 6, 2015, 3:10 am
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Really scraping the bottom of the barrel here aren't we? I guess it's too much to expect a "hey good for you for actually taking this seriously". As to your questions:- The first person resigned I think two years ago, he's now a travel agent specializing in rental cars
- The second person rents hundreds of cars a year.
Your last sentence is borderline insulting, can't say I'm surprised though.
Mar 6, 2015, 5:50 am
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Can we stop now, please? This simply isn't fruitful.
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Mar 6, 2015, 12:54 pm
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Mar 6, 2015, 3:35 pm
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Yuck is what I say, but I guess we can make this into a true soap opera and (as Kokonutz stated earlier) open up the TB forum as read-only. Just give me an advance warning so that I can have popcorn at the ready
Mar 6, 2015, 5:49 pm
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I have no issues with opening the TB forum or merging it here. Based on my brief history on TB, I think folks would be disappointed in the "entertainment value".
Mar 6, 2015, 6:32 pm
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I do. For one thing all our personal identities are exposed there. Also, although I try to post discreetly in private as well as in public, I wouldn't want to have to re-read every single post I've made in private before they are picked apart by people hunting for something they can object to. That's of no value to anyone.
Any promise of privacy for posts needs to be honored. That's true even if the privacy is quite limited. For example, you may recall the outcry when Randy Petersen decided to open up OMNI to all posters. Members complained bitterly that their OMNI posts had been made with the understanding that search engines would never be able to see them. Those members were right. Some members went as far as deleting all their posts and quitting FlyerTalk. When Randy departed TalkBoard restored the limitation on access to OMNI.
We have been down that road before and it's the wrong direction.
What about a public forum only for future TalkBoard discussion? We could accomplish that simply by closing the private forum and using this one. That's not as bad an idea, but it carries unintended consequences. Some TalkBoard interactions use private messaging. That would increase, as would the likelihood that some TalkBoard members are left out of the interactions. Cliques would form. FYI I have not seen anything resembling cliques in my several years on TalkBoard, so I do fear that outcome.
Any promise of privacy for posts needs to be honored. That's true even if the privacy is quite limited. For example, you may recall the outcry when Randy Petersen decided to open up OMNI to all posters. Members complained bitterly that their OMNI posts had been made with the understanding that search engines would never be able to see them. Those members were right. Some members went as far as deleting all their posts and quitting FlyerTalk. When Randy departed TalkBoard restored the limitation on access to OMNI.
We have been down that road before and it's the wrong direction.
What about a public forum only for future TalkBoard discussion? We could accomplish that simply by closing the private forum and using this one. That's not as bad an idea, but it carries unintended consequences. Some TalkBoard interactions use private messaging. That would increase, as would the likelihood that some TalkBoard members are left out of the interactions. Cliques would form. FYI I have not seen anything resembling cliques in my several years on TalkBoard, so I do fear that outcome.
Mar 6, 2015, 7:41 pm
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I do. For one thing all our personal identities are exposed there. Also, although I try to post discreetly in private as well as in public, I wouldn't want to have to re-read every single post I've made in private before they are picked apart by people hunting for something they can object to. That's of no value to anyone.
Any promise of privacy for posts needs to be honored. That's true even if the privacy is quite limited. For example, you may recall the outcry when Randy Petersen decided to open up OMNI to all posters. Members complained bitterly that their OMNI posts had been made with the understanding that search engines would never be able to see them. Those members were right. Some members went as far as deleting all their posts and quitting FlyerTalk. When Randy departed TalkBoard restored the limitation on access to OMNI.
We have been down that road before and it's the wrong direction.
What about a public forum only for future TalkBoard discussion? We could accomplish that simply by closing the private forum and using this one. That's not as bad an idea, but it carries unintended consequences. Some TalkBoard interactions use private messaging. That would increase, as would the likelihood that some TalkBoard members are left out of the interactions. Cliques would form. FYI I have not seen anything resembling cliques in my several years on TalkBoard, so I do fear that outcome.
Any promise of privacy for posts needs to be honored. That's true even if the privacy is quite limited. For example, you may recall the outcry when Randy Petersen decided to open up OMNI to all posters. Members complained bitterly that their OMNI posts had been made with the understanding that search engines would never be able to see them. Those members were right. Some members went as far as deleting all their posts and quitting FlyerTalk. When Randy departed TalkBoard restored the limitation on access to OMNI.
We have been down that road before and it's the wrong direction.
What about a public forum only for future TalkBoard discussion? We could accomplish that simply by closing the private forum and using this one. That's not as bad an idea, but it carries unintended consequences. Some TalkBoard interactions use private messaging. That would increase, as would the likelihood that some TalkBoard members are left out of the interactions. Cliques would form. FYI I have not seen anything resembling cliques in my several years on TalkBoard, so I do fear that outcome.