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Deal closed SEP 23 - http://news.marriott.com/2016/09/marriott-international-expanded-loyalty-benefits/
FAQ :
http://members.marriott.com/faq/#will-rewards-and-spg-be-turning-into-one-program
Will Rewards and SPG be turning into one program?
These are two of the best programs in the industry, and we want you to benefit from everything that makes SPG and Rewards great. We don’t anticipate that the two programs will come together before 2018, and we will keep you informed of any updates. In the meantime, there’s no change to how you book reservations, manage your accounts or earn Elite night credits, points and miles in the current programs.
If I have Lifetime Status in one of the programs, will I also get it in the other program when I link my accounts?
We appreciate your loyalty! Lifetime Status is specific to the program that you earned it in. While linking accounts will not result in Lifetime Status in the other program, your Elite status will be matched to the same Elite tier in the other program. Any existing Lifetime Status you already hold within either program will still be enjoyed within that program. We’re working on more ways to recognize your loyalty and Lifetime Status as we work towards harmonizing the programs, which we don’t anticipate happening until 2018.
You can now link your Marriott Rewards or Ritz-Carlton Rewards account with your SPG account.
It will be a 3:1 transfer ratio between MR-SPG
FAQ :
http://members.marriott.com/faq/#will-rewards-and-spg-be-turning-into-one-program
Will Rewards and SPG be turning into one program?
These are two of the best programs in the industry, and we want you to benefit from everything that makes SPG and Rewards great. We don’t anticipate that the two programs will come together before 2018, and we will keep you informed of any updates. In the meantime, there’s no change to how you book reservations, manage your accounts or earn Elite night credits, points and miles in the current programs.
If I have Lifetime Status in one of the programs, will I also get it in the other program when I link my accounts?
We appreciate your loyalty! Lifetime Status is specific to the program that you earned it in. While linking accounts will not result in Lifetime Status in the other program, your Elite status will be matched to the same Elite tier in the other program. Any existing Lifetime Status you already hold within either program will still be enjoyed within that program. We’re working on more ways to recognize your loyalty and Lifetime Status as we work towards harmonizing the programs, which we don’t anticipate happening until 2018.
You can now link your Marriott Rewards or Ritz-Carlton Rewards account with your SPG account.
It will be a 3:1 transfer ratio between MR-SPG
Latest on the Starwood and Marriott merger : deal closed on 23 Sep.
#481
Join Date: Aug 2009
Programs: MR rewards
Posts: 272
small Q
Im a Marriott platinum never stay SPG
My next stay on SPG chain for 2 nights worth around 1000 USD , care about Marriott points the most, I know i can earn miles in SPG but can i keep the points then transfer them to Marriott later ?
Note: I fly emirates also i put my Skywards and SPG account together so when i stay SPG i got the miles ..
to me the important is
1-Marriott points 1000 USD give me 15000 Marriott points ..
2-Skywards 2000 miles
3-SPG ??!! and i don't care because i don't use them except when there is no Marriott ..
Thanks
Im a Marriott platinum never stay SPG
My next stay on SPG chain for 2 nights worth around 1000 USD , care about Marriott points the most, I know i can earn miles in SPG but can i keep the points then transfer them to Marriott later ?
Note: I fly emirates also i put my Skywards and SPG account together so when i stay SPG i got the miles ..
to me the important is
1-Marriott points 1000 USD give me 15000 Marriott points ..
2-Skywards 2000 miles
3-SPG ??!! and i don't care because i don't use them except when there is no Marriott ..
Thanks
#482
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 10,969
Someone mentioned in the Marriott forum that a former assistant general manager at the Chicago Magnificant Mile Marriott has been propmoted to corporate to manage the integration of SPG and Marriott Rewards.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/26662627-post30.html
There's also a suggestion there that the merger will be completed in 2018.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/26662627-post30.html
There's also a suggestion there that the merger will be completed in 2018.
#483
Join Date: May 2015
Location: KCH
Programs: Trying my best to love Le Club Accor (Gold)
Posts: 129
I've got a surprise email from MR about double elite status nights for every paid stays....how sweet. Perhaps a targeted offer...do you guys received it?
Too bad i've just pledge my allegiance with Accor & about to sign up for Accor Plus while enjoying the remnants of my SPG status.
Too bad i've just pledge my allegiance with Accor & about to sign up for Accor Plus while enjoying the remnants of my SPG status.
#484
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 1,748
Hi!
So you want to be able to transfer your potential SPG points to Marriott later?
If I were you I would just find a Marriott to stay in. Because nobody knows how SPG points are going to be converted to MR points. You might lose out and get less than 15,000 MR points.
If you are flying Emirates, you have "no choice" and have earn it as SPG points. But treat that as a bonus.
So you want to be able to transfer your potential SPG points to Marriott later?
If I were you I would just find a Marriott to stay in. Because nobody knows how SPG points are going to be converted to MR points. You might lose out and get less than 15,000 MR points.
If you are flying Emirates, you have "no choice" and have earn it as SPG points. But treat that as a bonus.
small Q
Im a Marriott platinum never stay SPG
My next stay on SPG chain for 2 nights worth around 1000 USD , care about Marriott points the most, I know i can earn miles in SPG but can i keep the points then transfer them to Marriott later ?
Note: I fly emirates also i put my Skywards and SPG account together so when i stay SPG i got the miles ..
to me the important is
1-Marriott points 1000 USD give me 15000 Marriott points ..
2-Skywards 2000 miles
3-SPG ??!! and i don't care because i don't use them except when there is no Marriott ..
Thanks
Im a Marriott platinum never stay SPG
My next stay on SPG chain for 2 nights worth around 1000 USD , care about Marriott points the most, I know i can earn miles in SPG but can i keep the points then transfer them to Marriott later ?
Note: I fly emirates also i put my Skywards and SPG account together so when i stay SPG i got the miles ..
to me the important is
1-Marriott points 1000 USD give me 15000 Marriott points ..
2-Skywards 2000 miles
3-SPG ??!! and i don't care because i don't use them except when there is no Marriott ..
Thanks
#485
Join Date: Aug 2009
Programs: MR rewards
Posts: 272
Hi!
So you want to be able to transfer your potential SPG points to Marriott later?
If I were you I would just find a Marriott to stay in. Because nobody knows how SPG points are going to be converted to MR points. You might lose out and get less than 15,000 MR points.
If you are flying Emirates, you have "no choice" and have earn it as SPG points. But treat that as a bonus.
So you want to be able to transfer your potential SPG points to Marriott later?
If I were you I would just find a Marriott to stay in. Because nobody knows how SPG points are going to be converted to MR points. You might lose out and get less than 15,000 MR points.
If you are flying Emirates, you have "no choice" and have earn it as SPG points. But treat that as a bonus.
Did the calculation if i pay with Amex i well got something around 6k miles which is not bad at all for 2 stays , yes i hope to transfer them to Marriott but i well not gamble!! miles are also important to me ..
#486
Join Date: Sep 2005
Programs: Lifetime *G (MP), Lifetime PE (Bonvoy)
Posts: 1,465
Hi!
So you want to be able to transfer your potential SPG points to Marriott later?
If I were you I would just find a Marriott to stay in. Because nobody knows how SPG points are going to be converted to MR points. You might lose out and get less than 15,000 MR points.
So you want to be able to transfer your potential SPG points to Marriott later?
If I were you I would just find a Marriott to stay in. Because nobody knows how SPG points are going to be converted to MR points. You might lose out and get less than 15,000 MR points.
Has any non-status SPG member flashed their status Marriott card when checking in to a Starwood property in the hope of getting some sort of benefit and been successful?
#487
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minneapolis: DL DM charter 2.3MM
Programs: A3*Gold, SPG Plat, HyattDiamond, MarriottPP, LHW exAccess, ICI, Raffles Amb, NW PE MM, TWA Gold MM
Posts: 100,413
The best analogy is that when United and Continental merged, and flyers were members of both, there was an option to merge both accounts. It was easier for them as a mile is a mile is a mile. Maybe there'll be a "merge accounts" option and an agreed conversion rate (and a combined status re-assessment). That is what computers are for, right?
Has any non-status SPG member flashed their status Marriott card when checking in to a Starwood property in the hope of getting some sort of benefit and been successful?
Has any non-status SPG member flashed their status Marriott card when checking in to a Starwood property in the hope of getting some sort of benefit and been successful?
#488
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: HEL
Programs: SPG LTP, hotels, OWE, STE+, *G, Octopus
Posts: 5,785
#489
Join Date: May 2002
Programs: AAdvantage Platinum, United Silver, Marriott Titanium Elite
Posts: 2,276
I'm sure some elite members tried to get status-based benefits at Marriott properties with SPG elite and at Starwood properties with MR elite as soon as the merger plans hit the news. Was anyone successful? I doubt it.
I'm a Marriott Platinum. I always get elite benefits at Marriott properties. Sure, benefits vary depending on which Marriott brand it is and on the particular hotel. But, especially at full-service brands (Marriott, Renaissance, JW Marriott, Autograph Collection), I almost always get some sort of upgrade, ranging from executive level rooms to spacious suites. I get lounge access or breakfast. I get free faster tier Internet. I get a welcome gift ($10 f/b credit or 500 points). My reservation is backed up with guarantees that make it extremely unlikely the hotel will walk me or give me the wrong bed type. And I get 20 points per dollar spent (10 base + 5 Platinum bonus + 5 Marriott Visa).
I'm sure there will be some sort of reciprocal elite recognition before SPG and Marriott Rewards are fully combined. Those who are elite with either program will benefit because we'll have more places where we can get benefits.
Is that really so bad?
Last edited by Horace; May 26, 2016 at 8:58 am
#490
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minneapolis: DL DM charter 2.3MM
Programs: A3*Gold, SPG Plat, HyattDiamond, MarriottPP, LHW exAccess, ICI, Raffles Amb, NW PE MM, TWA Gold MM
Posts: 100,413
Well, if you've *earned* top status in both programs, you don't want to suddenly be competing with everyone coming with elite status from the other (only one) program.
#491
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Aug 2002
Programs: UALifetimePremierGold, Marriott LifetimeTitanium
Posts: 71,113
This thought that one program is the 2nd coming of you know who & the other is the anti you know who gets a bit old. Both programs have pros/cons. And lest it be said that SPG is perfect as some have suggested, I've been reading threads on this forum that indicate not all is 100% paradise. (FWIW - that's true of any program as far as I'm concerned so not a diss on SPG, other than those who make SPG sound like the second coming of you know who).
Here's my take for both sides. The merger is happening like it or not. Get over it/deal w/ it. Once the details are announced a year from now, elites from either/both programs can make a decision on what works best for them (which quite frankly IMO they should do each year of all their programs & not at all related to merger). They can leave, they can go. But the them/us stuff will eventually go away as it does w/ all mergers (and yes I miss the original United so I do understand some of the angst).
Cheers.
#492
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 1,748
Gee. He/she just asked if anyone had any luck doing this. Why can't we just answer the question?
OP: I don't have status at MR so I can't answer. You'd probably have better luck asking this in the MR forum.
#493
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Williamsburg, VA
Programs: DL DM, Bonvoy LTT, HH Diam, UA Silver, USAF million miler ;)
Posts: 1,596
I sat next to a young SPG loyalist the other day on the airplane. He was unfamiliar with MR, but very concerned about the change.
We compared notes on award prices, bennies, suite upgrades, etc. He had been very unsuccessful trying to use his suite certs, and eventually had given up, while I had had several nice experiences. Also, it seemed like the cost of an award room was (relative to point value) lower for MR. It was enlightening for both of us.
I think the "doom and gloom" may be a little hyperbolic, unless they trade points at 1:1
We compared notes on award prices, bennies, suite upgrades, etc. He had been very unsuccessful trying to use his suite certs, and eventually had given up, while I had had several nice experiences. Also, it seemed like the cost of an award room was (relative to point value) lower for MR. It was enlightening for both of us.
I think the "doom and gloom" may be a little hyperbolic, unless they trade points at 1:1
#494
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Wayne, PA USA
Programs: DL MM, Marriott Bonvoy Lifetime Titanium, HHonors Gold
Posts: 7,242
Marriott really is more than a collection of tired FIs and CYs. And not everyone wants every single hotel stay to be at a W with a DJ spinning deep house and trance in the lobby from 5:00 PM to 2:00 AM.
#495
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: LGA/JFK/EWR
Programs: UA 1K1.75MM, Hyatt Globalist, abandoned Marriott LTT (RIP SPG), Hertz PC
Posts: 21,170
IMO "upgrades" are suites, jr. suites, maybe the equivalent of a W Cool Corner room, etc. YMMV of course.