Abstract1

Hi everyone. Does anyone know of any widebody star alliance flights operating in europe at all? The only one i can see is MUC - MAN with SQ but i can't even find a price for it!

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rareair

LHR-IST - some TK flights are on the A330.
IST is on the European side of the city.

DELLAS

Air China used to fly CDG-ATH with an A330 . I heard that they still do a EU tag but can't remember where it goes.

Just found this :

CA961 MUC-ATH 06:55-10:30 330 (Daily)
CA962 ATH-MUC 11:30-12:55 330 (Daily)

I presume its still operating .

LiviLion

I once flew on an LH A300 to TXL from CDG. That was nice. Not too many years ago either. I believe the A300 doesn't fly any more though on LH.

Oxon Flyer

I'll move this one over to the *A forum for more input there.

Oxon Flyer
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NewbieRunner

Where are you looking? According to singaporeair.com:

MUC-MAN return starts €151 in Y, €755 in C and €2,075 in F.
MAN-MUC seems like a better value in premium cabins at £509 in C and £1,013 in F.

Or how about 5,625 miles + £50 (& taxes) in F one way?

oliver2002

MUC-MAN is about 120€ oneway (in H) and a little higher (~150€ in Q) for the return. 701 flown miles. (H earns 100%, Q nada on M&M, I suppose other FFPs are similar). The fares are filed for the EU only, so you won't see them if you are looking using a different POS.

A good deal if you have a days work in the area and don't mind getting up at the crack of dawn LH's OW fares are lower but earn nothing.

stimpy

I've flown TK CDG-IST in a widebody. I think it was an A340 or 330.

Not Star Alliance, but worth noting that BA has a bunch of 767's they use intra-Europe.

UTA_flyinghigh

LHR to IST with TK can be 77W, 343 or 332. However the chances of the aircraft showing at the gate being the same as when you booked depends on how well IST dipatch has been fed on that day.

UTA

NewbieRunner

Not even 125 miles? I didn't know there was any LH fare class which didn't earn something if credited to M&M.

oliver2002

of course 125 (plus exec bonus!)

pogonation

If only SQ would change their stupid policy.......

31dany

No, LH retired those A300's, they were flying the domestic as well.

JamesBond_ppk

Updated with more flights

To sum up you have for *A:

- CA MUC-ATH-MUC on A330.
- TK LHR-IST-LHR on A330/A340 regularly, sometimes on 77W .
- TK CDG-IST-CDG, BRU-IST-BRU and DUS-IST-DUS on A330/A340 sometimes but you need to be lucky as UTA_flyinghigh mentioned.
- SQ MAN-MUC-MAN on 772.
- SQ IST-ATH-IST on 772, 3 times a week from October 31st.
- TP LIS-TER-LIS on A330 sometimes.

Soon in *A (maybe)

- Ethiopian (ET) ARN-FCO-ARN sometimes on B767 (mostly on B757)

Slightly outside Europe
- LH FRA-TLV-FRA on A340 or B747.
- LH FRA-CAI-FRA on A340.
- LX ZRH-CAI-ZRH on A340.

Additionaly TK has used A330/A340 to other destinations (ARN, OSL, CPH), but these are not scheduled, so it would be pure luck if you ended up on a wide body for these routes.

SQ has several intra-european routes without trafic rights (BCN-MXP-BCN for example).

The only F Class on *A intra Europe widebody is TK with LHR-IST-LHR on 77W, when you find it...

If you look outside *A you have for OneWorld:

- British Ariways (BA) which uses a 767 relatively frequently to the following european routes: FRA, CDG, ATH, FCO, ARN, MAD, LCA, IST, DME, TLV (if you consider the last 2 to be within Europe or at least not so far, and probably other destinations as well...).

- Iberia (IB) MAD-TFN-MAD and MAD-LPA-MAD on A340 sometimes.

- LAN Airlines (LA) FRA-MAD-FRA on A340.

And if you look at SkyTeam:

- KE (Korean) operates a 747 or a 777 between VIE and ZRH (not the other way around). F class used to be offered, but it seems only C is available these days.

- AF used an A380 last summer for crew training on CDG-LHR-CDG. F class was not available, but C, and Y were if I remember well. That was only for a few weeks though. I wish they'd do it again

And outside of those alliances you have:

- Emirates (EK) LCA-MLA-LCA on A330.
- Cyprus Airways (CY) LCA-LHR-LCA on A330 quite regularly.
- Kuwait Airways (KU) FRA-GVA-FRA on A340 / CDG-FCO-CDG on A300.
- Pakistan International (PK) OSL-CPH on 777 sometimes (mostly week ends).

Finally slightly outside on Europe:

- El Al (YY) operates to several european destinations with B767.
- Egytpair (MS) also operates to several european destinations with A330.

Milchbroetchen

Lufthansa uses (german article), especially in August - October some of their 747-400 as a 737 replacement, on TXL-FRA, MUC-FRA and HAM-FRA. Unfortunately they don't say when.