Elusive Kommersant class on Aeroflot
Apr 15, 2008, 1:01 pm
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Elusive Kommersant class on Aeroflot
I am flying on SU this week, and its in coach 
I have redeemed my NW miles for the intra-European trip, and was able to pre-assign seats on SU.
SU has been advertising their Kommersant class on their Intra-European network as Economy-plus version (think Tempo Challange on AF). Allegedly, its located behind Premier (SU Business) class, and has the same food as premier, same drinks as Premier, same flatware and glassware as premier, one can check in at Premier desk, and the only difference is that the seats are coach), but with the middle seat left unoccupied. It bookes into full Y. The number of seats vary by flights, depending on demand (movable curtain used). So, in my book, its essentially intra-European business class on any other European airline.
There are 5 rows of Premier on A320 aircraft on SU, and 6 rows on 321, all fixed (i.e. these are US-style First Class seats, the number does not fluctuate from flight to flight).
Given the elements above, here is my question: I have 11C on 321, and 6C on 320. I booked the regular coach seats by redeeming 25,000 NW miles. Am I in Kommersant class? How is that possible? While 11C may or may not be in Kommersant (on my previous SU flights in Premier, I saw Kommersant class being about 4 rows, starting at the row right nehind Premier), then 6C certainly does put me in Kommersant. Or do you think thats just a fluke and there is no Kommersant seats sold on the return flight and I am actually in regular coach? It just seems that both of my seats potentially could be in Kommersant class, based on aircraft configurations.
Not that I expect to be in an upgraded class of service, considering I redeemed miles for regular coach (and there is no way to redeem miles for Kommersant specifically), but it would be interesting to see if that is a fluke in SU system (being able to pre-assign seats in Kommersant while purchasing mileage award ticket), or SU really does not sell Kommersant that often, and the seats behind Premier are effectively regular coach.
Flights in question: AMS-SVO outbound, SVO-FRA return
What are your speculations?
I have redeemed my NW miles for the intra-European trip, and was able to pre-assign seats on SU.
SU has been advertising their Kommersant class on their Intra-European network as Economy-plus version (think Tempo Challange on AF). Allegedly, its located behind Premier (SU Business) class, and has the same food as premier, same drinks as Premier, same flatware and glassware as premier, one can check in at Premier desk, and the only difference is that the seats are coach), but with the middle seat left unoccupied. It bookes into full Y. The number of seats vary by flights, depending on demand (movable curtain used). So, in my book, its essentially intra-European business class on any other European airline.
There are 5 rows of Premier on A320 aircraft on SU, and 6 rows on 321, all fixed (i.e. these are US-style First Class seats, the number does not fluctuate from flight to flight).
Given the elements above, here is my question: I have 11C on 321, and 6C on 320. I booked the regular coach seats by redeeming 25,000 NW miles. Am I in Kommersant class? How is that possible? While 11C may or may not be in Kommersant (on my previous SU flights in Premier, I saw Kommersant class being about 4 rows, starting at the row right nehind Premier), then 6C certainly does put me in Kommersant. Or do you think thats just a fluke and there is no Kommersant seats sold on the return flight and I am actually in regular coach? It just seems that both of my seats potentially could be in Kommersant class, based on aircraft configurations.
Not that I expect to be in an upgraded class of service, considering I redeemed miles for regular coach (and there is no way to redeem miles for Kommersant specifically), but it would be interesting to see if that is a fluke in SU system (being able to pre-assign seats in Kommersant while purchasing mileage award ticket), or SU really does not sell Kommersant that often, and the seats behind Premier are effectively regular coach.
Flights in question: AMS-SVO outbound, SVO-FRA return
What are your speculations?
Apr 15, 2008, 2:53 pm
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I have 11C on 321, and 6C on 320. I booked the regular coach seats by redeeming 25,000 NW miles. Am I in Kommersant class? How is that possible? While 11C may or may not be in Kommersant (on my previous SU flights in Premier, I saw Kommersant class being about 4 rows, starting at the row right nehind Premier), then 6C certainly does put me in Kommersant. Or do you think thats just a fluke and there is no Kommersant seats sold on the return flight and I am actually in regular coach? It just seems that both of my seats potentially could be in Kommersant class, based on aircraft configurations.
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Apr 15, 2008, 3:31 pm
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Flights in question, actually are SU230 on the 17th of April, and SU105 on the 21st of April.
Apr 15, 2008, 3:43 pm
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Apr 15, 2008, 3:53 pm
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Apr 15, 2008, 4:15 pm
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Apr 15, 2008, 10:14 pm
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true. one can hope though. I will report from Moscow.
May 3, 2008, 5:27 am
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Aeroflot is one of Europes better airlines these days. The aircraft are spotless, the seating comfortable, and the food is superior to most. Once the new terminal in moscow is complete the ground service will exceed what we can expect from other skyteam carriers.
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One more year!?
By the way, the DATE lounge hostess at SVO2 yesterday told me it is going to be one more year before SVO3 is finished. She was obviously not happy about it. I asked her if she knew if there was going to be a ST Lounge there and she just went on a rampage about how long it will be before that question will even be considered. Still a year away.
Meanwhile, DME continues to go, grow, and glow...
Meanwhile, DME continues to go, grow, and glow...
May 10, 2008, 11:48 am
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By the way, the DATE lounge hostess at SVO2 yesterday told me it is going to be one more year before SVO3 is finished. She was obviously not happy about it. I asked her if she knew if there was going to be a ST Lounge there and she just went on a rampage about how long it will be before that question will even be considered. Still a year away.
Meanwhile, DME continues to go, grow, and glow...
Meanwhile, DME continues to go, grow, and glow...
I would LOVE a combined ST lounge in SVO-3, with actual agents that can help with changes to tickets, if necessary.