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Old Nov 26, 2007, 12:52 am
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Vegas VIP Hosting?

Since I'm usually just a hotel & spa whore, it's popped into my head that I may want to be uncharacteristically social at night on this trip. I've got friends with me who aren't quite as hermit-like when on vacation

Would anyone know who I would talk to or an internet site that handles true VIP nightclub packaging? Not just front-of-line stuff, but the whole deal, including private table, bottles, etc. I hate the hassle of the velvet rope and don't want to waste my time on it.

I've also been scouring websites for exotics rentals: I'm thinking a Bentley, but since my group is 4, it may be best to go with an H2 or Escalade. In any event, not really sure about this one and wondering if anyone's had good/bad experiences with this sort in Vegas...


I appreciate the wisdom,




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Old Nov 26, 2007, 3:07 am
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you could get VIP @ MGM Mirage properties by staying at skylofts, and they offered you a 1BR > 3BR upgrade there, which i would imagine means even more VIP treatment..

you said youre going with wynn villas instead. id sure hope they would do SOMETHING for you, considering the above... and if youre paying for everything, shouldnt the tower/villa concierge be able to handle it?

i presume you dont have amex plat/cent?

you might try talking to this FTer about Bluefish Sales>
http://flyertalk.com/forum/showpost....9&postcount=10

or to Quintessentially ($1500/yr) about what they could do for you. for standard benefits, they offer priority table reservations at these clubs >
http://www.quintessentially.com/home...&sec=3&id=6154

something interesting thing i saw recently >
http://www.forbes.com/2007/11/02/vod...hisSpeed=30000
Blush
$475
If it seems criminal to leave any juice behind in the bottle when you’re paying close to $500 for it ... don’t worry. At Blush, they’ll store your unfinished bottle for up to a week.

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Old Nov 26, 2007, 4:02 am
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Steve Cyr
or Richard Wilk

You can't go wrong with either of these guys. Just let them set everything up for you. They can "personally" open a lot of doors.

Though, I will admit I'm not exactly sure how they operate w/ regard to non-gambling (or shall we say non-whale) clients. But, if you are honest and are willing to part with a decent amount of skrilla --- I don't think you'll have a lot of issues.

IMO, a good connected Vegas host can do things that are totally out of reach of any of the "general" concierge services. Since, it seems you want more than just a priority table reservation.

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Old Nov 26, 2007, 4:37 am
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circles (amex plat/cent, ML+) can be pretty good.

and quintessentially does not stop with the standard partner benefits.

personally, i would not call either a "general" service.

http://www.stevecyr.com/casinos.htm (and other pages) seem to suggest to me that wynn, mgm mirage, palms, etc would have superior casino hosts, and that as you said, the point is mainly to comp casino guests. am i reading it wrong?

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Old Nov 26, 2007, 4:50 am
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Originally Posted by Kagehitokiri
http://www.stevecyr.com/casinos.htm (and other pages) seem to suggest to me that wynn, mgm mirage, palms, etc would have superior casino hosts, and that as you said, the point is mainly to comp casino guests. am i reading it wrong?
the difference is that Cyr et al are independent hosts --- so, they can choose to provide their services (which are really their connections) to non-casino guests who desire to pay for these services. An "individual" in-town host who is ONLY a mobile phone call away is going to be infinitely more useful than any concierge service (in Vegas), IMO. And, BenjaminNicholas is the type that might be able to recommend their services to some of his friends and associates (who might become good "casino" clients).

All of the properties have some great hosts, but a casino host who works for MGM-Mirage, HET, Palms, Boyd etc. etc. is really not going to be able to work with a non-casino client; they are often just too busy with their casino clients. And, as we know, their performance is reviewed based on how well they take care of the casino clients.
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Old Nov 26, 2007, 5:02 am
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Cyr et al are independent hosts --- so, they can choose to provide their services (which are really their connections) to non-casino guests who desire to pay for these services.
^

gotcha re Cyr. i just saw "Wilk is Director of Customer Development at the Las Vegas Hilton"

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Old Nov 26, 2007, 5:07 am
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Originally Posted by Kagehitokiri
gotcha re Cyr. i just saw "Wilk is Director of Customer Development at the Las Vegas Hilton"
I "think" Wilk is currently placing his clients at the Hard Rock. Not sure if he is also working with the LVH, he was there for a very long time. But, now he is most definitely independent (and has been for a few years).

All independent hosts will have a select group of properties they work more closely with. Sort of makes sense, since they need a bit of the inside control, and wouldn't be able to do that at 12 different properties.

But, let us not forget, there are casino guests in the Villas at the LVH that are getting a much higher level of service (and amenities) that a paid guest at the Skylofts could only dream about. I know the focus of FT and the Luxury Forum are always the "hot" now properties, but there are still very very solid services and accomodations being offered at Mirage, Caesars and the other properties in Vegas --- they just ONLY provide these services for their casino guests.
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Old Nov 26, 2007, 5:09 am
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...definitely independent (and has been for a few years). All independent hosts will have a select group of properties they work more closely with...
gotcha.

But, lest not forget, there are casino guests in the Villas at the LVH...
offtopic? OP isnt staying in wynn apartment villas.
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Old Nov 26, 2007, 5:24 am
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offtopic? OP isnt staying in wynn apartment villas.
sorry, but i'll blame you Kagehitokiri for bringing me down the path of "off-topicness" --- LOL.

Anyway, I was referring to the 15,000 sq/ft Sky Villas at the LVH (Las Vegas Hilton) - NOT Wynn Las Vegas. Which, IMO, have always been quite impressive since they opened a few years ago. (though, totally not my style, much in the way the St. Regis - New York is not my style)
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Old Nov 26, 2007, 5:34 am
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huh? LVH villas are casino controlled, like most others, including wynn apartment villas. OP is staying in wynn fairway villas, which are bookable like skylofts. although im probably forgetting another division within the wynn fairway villas.

why bring up casino controlled accommodations/benefits, when that is not what is being discussed? obviously such guests are well taken care of automatically. (as i asked earlier - "am i reading it wrong?" and you clarified that i was indeed wrong.)

although i do have a question i presume you know the answer to - are the bellagio villas bookable or casino controlled?

re concierges, YMMV
http://travel.msn.com/Guides/article...umentid=249531
Bungalow 8 was a breeze, too—we were on the list, and once inside, we felt so taken care of that we didn't need the services of the club's in-house concierge. For a moment, it looked as if the table for six at 8 p.m. at the Spotted Pig wasn't going to happen. "Not likely," Rebecca muttered at first, but two days later, it was done. On arrival, though, Tim, the maître d', balked. "We don't take reservations—that was explained to the person who called," he said. "It could be 45 minutes." I went outside, oddly pleased that my concierge had failed. But through the window, I could see Tim talking on the phone, staring at us. And a moment later, he was outside. If the six of us would squeeze into a table for four, we could sit right away. Well into our meal, I asked what had changed. Was it Quintessentially? "Yes," Tim said. "They're friends of the house."

It somehow came as no surprise that the restaurant's managing partner later denied that any of this had happened, insisting that nobody ever gets preferred service, which goes to show that Quintessentially can make the impossible happen.
thought i remembered someone getting free bottle service from amex cent (circles) but looks like it was a restaurant not club. http://flyertalk.com/forum/showpost....60&postcount=1

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Old Nov 26, 2007, 6:57 am
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Originally Posted by Kagehitokiri
why bring up casino controlled accommodations/benefits, when that is not what is being discussed?
It wasn't me who brought it up in milepost #4 your mentioned :

<clip> seem to suggest to me that wynn, mgm mirage, palms, etc would have superior casino hosts, and that as you said, the point is mainly to comp casino guests. am i reading it wrong?
but, my original answer was super simple, i.e. just give Steve Cyr or Richard Wilk a shout.

I even prefaced this advice with :

Though, I will admit I'm not exactly sure how they operate w/ regard to non-gambling (or shall we say non-whale) clients. But, if you are honest and are willing to part with a decent amount of skrilla --- I don't think you'll have a lot of issues.
Kagehitokiri, you and I probably disagree on the value/benefit of concierge services. Personally, I think what services like Centurion offer are really quite overrated. I believe in one on one personal relationship building. But, as we know, everything in the service industry is YMMV.
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Old Nov 26, 2007, 11:56 am
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I do have a Centurion. They haven't been that much help, as most of those who I've been talking with at Amex aren't local experts in Vegas. They simply do the legwork for you, but it's with a lack of real world Vegas know-how.

I think I'll call one of the independent hosts. You're right-on-the-money about bringing future income to a casino and as long as I'm treated right, I'll keep my future business (and my clientele's) with them. I'm very loyal.


In communications with Wynn, it looks as if they're doing an airport pickup/drop-off for me, as well as providing me with a butler for the duration of my stay. A nice touch. I'm rated with their casino, which might be why they're offering me a better level of Villa service. Whatever the case may be, I'm just happy they're doing it.

In rethinking Erika's offer about bumping up to a 3br SkyLoft, I'm still happy at Wynn. While the Lofts are an incredible experience, I just don't want to deal with the common areas at MGM. Added, if I'm gambling, I'd much rather my play be at Wynn's tables.


Appreciate the great advice as always. Thanks





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Old Nov 26, 2007, 3:17 pm
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Go with a private VIP professional. I originally used Amex Concierge to get me on VIP access lists, but after speaking with them in detail about what I wanted, even they recommended a private VIP service that they were not affiliated with.

We used a private VIP to get the best table at LAX on a Saturday night. We obviously skipped the line, had two private bouncers, and additional professional assistant, private waitress, and we had the time of our lives. We planned on only getting a couple bottles, but we ended up spending well over 5k on alcohol alone.

If you need the name of a good VIP host, PM me.
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