KLM Longhaul Irregularities Thread
May 21, 2007, 10:11 pm
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KLM Longhaul Irregularities Thread
With an apparantly increasing number of longhaul delays, cancellations and other disruptions at KLM, I thought it might be interesting to set up a list for a while, so people will eventually see what flights are more delay prone than others and might be avoided if alternatives are available. Here I go, feel free to add.
Monday, May 21
KL735/736 AMS CUR AMS B744
Flight cancelled because of technical problems with the aircraft and no spare capacity.
KL686 MEX AMS B74E
Flight delayed for 3 hours after hard landing in Mexico City. Hard landing inspection needed. Will arrive in AMS 2 hours late.
KL577 AMS ABV KAN AMS A332
Damaged aircraft at Kano. Flight will arrive 3 hours late in AMS.
KL754 GYE UIO BON AMS MD11
Technical problems with the MD11 at Guayaquil caused 2h30 delay. Flight will arrive in AMS 90 minutes late.
Monday, May 21
KL735/736 AMS CUR AMS B744
Flight cancelled because of technical problems with the aircraft and no spare capacity.
KL686 MEX AMS B74E
Flight delayed for 3 hours after hard landing in Mexico City. Hard landing inspection needed. Will arrive in AMS 2 hours late.
KL577 AMS ABV KAN AMS A332
Damaged aircraft at Kano. Flight will arrive 3 hours late in AMS.
KL754 GYE UIO BON AMS MD11
Technical problems with the MD11 at Guayaquil caused 2h30 delay. Flight will arrive in AMS 90 minutes late.
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May 22, 2007, 6:40 am
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Good idea! ^ This might even qualify for a sticky. It seems that these problems are going to stick around for a while. 
May 22, 2007, 12:23 pm
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Tuesday, May 22
KL543 AMS KRT ADD AMS A332
Flight delayed for 90 minutes because of technical problems and aircraft change.
KL861 AMS NRT B772
Flight delayed for 3 hours for operational reasons.
KL865 AMS ICN B74E
Flight delayed for 1 hours because of technical problems.
KL809 AMS KUL CGK B74E
Flight cancelled. Aircraft used for KL865/ICN. No spare capacity.
KL543 AMS KRT ADD AMS A332
Flight delayed for 90 minutes because of technical problems and aircraft change.
KL861 AMS NRT B772
Flight delayed for 3 hours for operational reasons.
KL865 AMS ICN B74E
Flight delayed for 1 hours because of technical problems.
KL809 AMS KUL CGK B74E
Flight cancelled. Aircraft used for KL865/ICN. No spare capacity.
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May 22, 2007, 2:35 pm
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KL 809 AMS KUL
Cancelled...
Cancelled...
May 22, 2007, 2:58 pm
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Wednesday, May 23
KL810 CGK KUL AMS B74E
Flight cancelled.
KL862 NRT AMS B772
Flight delayed 2.5 hours, late inbound equipment from AMS.
KL866 ICN AMS B74E
Flight delayed 3 hours because of technical problems. Flight later cancelled. Aircraft is now supposed to return empty to AMS on Thursday, about 20 hours late.
KL657/658 AMS EWR AMS MD11
Flight cancelled. Technical issues with the MD11.
KL686 MEX AMS B74E
Flight delayed 2 hours because of extra maintenance check after lightning strike.
KL753 AMS BON GYE UIO MD11
Flight delayed 4 hours because of aircraft defect. Aircraft change.
KL810 CGK KUL AMS B74E
Flight cancelled.
KL862 NRT AMS B772
Flight delayed 2.5 hours, late inbound equipment from AMS.
KL866 ICN AMS B74E
Flight delayed 3 hours because of technical problems. Flight later cancelled. Aircraft is now supposed to return empty to AMS on Thursday, about 20 hours late.
KL657/658 AMS EWR AMS MD11
Flight cancelled. Technical issues with the MD11.
KL686 MEX AMS B74E
Flight delayed 2 hours because of extra maintenance check after lightning strike.
KL753 AMS BON GYE UIO MD11
Flight delayed 4 hours because of aircraft defect. Aircraft change.
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May 22, 2007, 3:01 pm
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KL 657 AMS EWR MD11
Cancelled
Cancelled
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May 23, 2007, 1:09 pm
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Thursday, May 24
KL866 ICN AMS B74E of Wednesday, May 23 is expected to arrive in AMS 19 hours behind schedule.
Aircraft will finally arrive at 1pm local time at AMS, or 20 hours behind schedule.
KL887 AMS HKG B74E
Delayed because no aircraft available at STD and waiting for the next inbound aircraft. Aircraft took off 1h40 late.
KL754 GYE UIO BON AMS MD11
Delayed 4 hours because of late inbound equipment after aircraft defect at AMS. The flight will make up some time but remain up to 2.5 hours behind schedule upon return to AMS.
KL457 AMS KWI A332
Flight delayed for 5 hours 20 minutes because of aircraft defect. Now expected to leave AMS at 21.00 local time. Aircraft finally left AMS 6.5 hours late.
KL866 ICN AMS B74E of Wednesday, May 23 is expected to arrive in AMS 19 hours behind schedule.
Aircraft will finally arrive at 1pm local time at AMS, or 20 hours behind schedule.
KL887 AMS HKG B74E
Delayed because no aircraft available at STD and waiting for the next inbound aircraft. Aircraft took off 1h40 late.
KL754 GYE UIO BON AMS MD11
Delayed 4 hours because of late inbound equipment after aircraft defect at AMS. The flight will make up some time but remain up to 2.5 hours behind schedule upon return to AMS.
KL457 AMS KWI A332
Flight delayed for 5 hours 20 minutes because of aircraft defect. Now expected to leave AMS at 21.00 local time. Aircraft finally left AMS 6.5 hours late.
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May 24, 2007, 3:40 am
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May 24, 2007, 8:23 am
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That all depends on what are the active taxi and runways, where the aircraft is parked and what kind of obstacles it meets between the parking bay and the active runway. Here are some other widebody flights of today's 10am departure wave and their push back, take off and taxi times:
KL791 B772 GRU 1005 - 1020 * 15min
KL597 B772 CPT 1018 - 1034 * 16min
KL743 B772 LIM 1018 - 1050 * 32min
KL621 A332 ATL 1020 - 1049 * 29min
KL661 B74E IAH 1025 - 1052 * 27min
KL565 B74E NBO 1028 - 1044 * 16min
KL657 MD11 EWR 1030 - 1058 * 28min
KL591 B74E JNB 1037 - 1104 * 27min
KL611 B74E ORD 1039 - 1109 * 30min
KL543 A332 KRT 1047 - 1114 * 27min
KL791 B772 GRU 1005 - 1020 * 15min
KL597 B772 CPT 1018 - 1034 * 16min
KL743 B772 LIM 1018 - 1050 * 32min
KL621 A332 ATL 1020 - 1049 * 29min
KL661 B74E IAH 1025 - 1052 * 27min
KL565 B74E NBO 1028 - 1044 * 16min
KL657 MD11 EWR 1030 - 1058 * 28min
KL591 B74E JNB 1037 - 1104 * 27min
KL611 B74E ORD 1039 - 1109 * 30min
KL543 A332 KRT 1047 - 1114 * 27min
May 24, 2007, 9:38 am
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JFK airport is particularly notorious when it comes to very very long times between pushback and take-off. Sometimes the queuing on the taxi way can take well over an hour!
LHR, whilst not as bad, is not great either.
At AMS it's because some of the runways are so far - at least you're moving, albeit most probably in the wrong direction!
LHR, whilst not as bad, is not great either.
At AMS it's because some of the runways are so far - at least you're moving, albeit most probably in the wrong direction!
May 24, 2007, 11:55 am
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Friday, May 25
KL458 KWI AMS A332
Flight delayed for 5 hours because of late inbound equipment after aircraft defect in AMS. Flight arrived AMS 5h15 late.
KL691 AMS YYZ B744
Flight delayed because of missing checked in passenger and luggage offloading.
KL589 AMS ACC MD11
Flight delayed because of baggage handling irregularities.
KL671 AMS YUL MD11/B744
Aircraft change from MD11 to B744 because of technical problems with the MD11 and no spare capcity.
KL810 CGK KUL AMS B74E
Flight delayed 1h40 because of technical problems during the transit stop at KUL.
KL692 YYZ AMS B744
Flight departed 3 hours late and is due in AMS 2.5h late.
KL458 KWI AMS A332
Flight delayed for 5 hours because of late inbound equipment after aircraft defect in AMS. Flight arrived AMS 5h15 late.
KL691 AMS YYZ B744
Flight delayed because of missing checked in passenger and luggage offloading.
KL589 AMS ACC MD11
Flight delayed because of baggage handling irregularities.
KL671 AMS YUL MD11/B744
Aircraft change from MD11 to B744 because of technical problems with the MD11 and no spare capcity.
KL810 CGK KUL AMS B74E
Flight delayed 1h40 because of technical problems during the transit stop at KUL.
KL692 YYZ AMS B744
Flight departed 3 hours late and is due in AMS 2.5h late.
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May 24, 2007, 2:20 pm
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