Best Miles Credit Card
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: Jun 2000
Posts: 31
Best Miles Credit Card
Hi. I'm looking to get a new credit card, and I want one that has the ability to transfer to a number of programs. Examples that I've found are American Express Membership Rewards, Diners Club Club Rewards, and hotel-affiliated credit cards, such as Starwood and Marriott?
Does anyone have these cards? How many airlines can you transfer points to? Most importantly: How is the transfer rate?
I've almost ruled out American Express Membership Rewards since there aren't many partners you can transfer to. Diners Club Club Rewards seems to have many, and I couldn't find the airline-list on the Marriott and Starwood websites.
Are there any other cards other than these four where you can transfer miles to a variety of airlines?
Also, again, how is the value of the transfer? Do you lose a lot of miles with each transfer?
Thanks! Peter.
Does anyone have these cards? How many airlines can you transfer points to? Most importantly: How is the transfer rate?
I've almost ruled out American Express Membership Rewards since there aren't many partners you can transfer to. Diners Club Club Rewards seems to have many, and I couldn't find the airline-list on the Marriott and Starwood websites.
Are there any other cards other than these four where you can transfer miles to a variety of airlines?
Also, again, how is the value of the transfer? Do you lose a lot of miles with each transfer?
Thanks! Peter.
#2
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Join Date: May 1999
Posts: 46,817
Recommend Starwood Amex Optima- $20k = 25k pts = 25k mi in MANY (nearly all airline) programs (w/60k pt/annum cap)!
See:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum69/HTML/000146.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum69/HTML/000185.html
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See:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum69/HTML/000146.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum69/HTML/000185.html
[This message has been edited by doc (edited 06-20-2000).]
#3
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Join Date: Jun 2000
Posts: 31
To compare with the Marrriott program:
$20K=20K points=5,000 miles
(According to conversion rates on the Marriott website)
This sounds too BAD to be true! I'm almost positive my numbers are correct.
The Starwood card sounds good, but I can not find any details about the card on their website, nor can I find the list of airline partners.
Can anyone direct me to a website?
Also, anyone have any experience with the Diners Club Club Rewards program?
$20K=20K points=5,000 miles
(According to conversion rates on the Marriott website)
This sounds too BAD to be true! I'm almost positive my numbers are correct.
The Starwood card sounds good, but I can not find any details about the card on their website, nor can I find the list of airline partners.
Can anyone direct me to a website?
Also, anyone have any experience with the Diners Club Club Rewards program?
#4
Original Poster
Join Date: Jun 2000
Posts: 31
Another question: I charge a lot, and I know some programs have caps for the miles/points that can be earned? Do any of the above cards (American Express Membership Rewards, Diners Club Club Rewards, Starwood, Marriott) have caps, and if so, is this lifted for elite members (Marriott, Starwood).
Thanks! Peter.
Thanks! Peter.
#5
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Northern California
Programs: Inf Elite CO, lifetime AA Platinum
Posts: 1,937
Look at the following site:
http://home1.americanexpress.com/apply/i_know_which.asp
And specify the Sheraton Starwood card. It is absolutely the best frequent flyer card out there (though large spenders may be restricted by the $60,000 annual limit).
http://home1.americanexpress.com/apply/i_know_which.asp
And specify the Sheraton Starwood card. It is absolutely the best frequent flyer card out there (though large spenders may be restricted by the $60,000 annual limit).
#6
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Northwest NJ, USA
Programs: HHonors (Gold), One Pass (Peon)
Posts: 680
I have a Hilton/AMEX card. No yearly fee, and I think the redemption rate is fairly good. I think I may get 2 miles per $spent. I haven't gotten the Hilton statement yet but will let you know.
Good luck,
DD
Good luck,
DD
#8
Original Poster
Join Date: Jun 2000
Posts: 31
Honors credit card:
$20K=40K points=3,500 miles (4K for AA)
The list of airlines is pretty good.
But, this is even worse than Marriott!! Starwood is looking like the way to go, except maybe for Diners Club Club Rewards.
PS: I know Starwood has a cap around $60K (Not sure about the exact figure). Is this lifted for Preferred Gold/Platinum members, like it often is with airline cards?
Thanks! Peter!
$20K=40K points=3,500 miles (4K for AA)
The list of airlines is pretty good.
But, this is even worse than Marriott!! Starwood is looking like the way to go, except maybe for Diners Club Club Rewards.
PS: I know Starwood has a cap around $60K (Not sure about the exact figure). Is this lifted for Preferred Gold/Platinum members, like it often is with airline cards?
Thanks! Peter!
#10
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Monkeyville
Programs: Island DOs, very sticky toffee pud w vanilla ice cream n multi-coloured velvet pillows enthusiast
Posts: 4,647
to jay, what did u mean by the second time around? each year they gave u 10,000 bonus miles? i was told that u only get 10,000 miles once, when u join...
i thought only skymiles amex platinum card had that offer...
i thought only skymiles amex platinum card had that offer...
#11
Join Date: May 2000
Location: VA USA IAD\DCA
Posts: 573
Originally posted by peter:
I found great info on the Starwood card on the American Express website. But I still can not find the list of airlines.
Thanks! Peter
I found great info on the Starwood card on the American Express website. But I still can not find the list of airlines.
Thanks! Peter
You will find the information at:
http://www.preferredguest.com/partners/810_airline.html
Andrew
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#12
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: SFO
Programs: UA 1P; HHonors Silver
Posts: 2,686
Diners is awesome. No B.S. and great customer service. Also: primary insurance coverage for automobile rentals, two statement periods to pay, international lounge access, end-of-year statement. $80 annual fee; 12,000 bonus miles if you use the card every month during your first year. Let an existing member "sponsor" you and your sponsor also receives a 3,000 mile bonus.
#13
Join Date: Apr 1999
Location: Oak Park, IL
Programs: AA 2 MM LIfetime Platinum, SPG Platinum, Hilton Silver, BA
Posts: 3,585
At the Starwood web-site, you can find the list of airlines. There are 20 which convert 1:1, and another 6 that have a different ratio. All the major airlines are included. - but it is at the starwood web-site, not at american express. I think it is the BEST card since you get a 5000 bonus when transferring 20,000 miles and you can transfer between spouses at the same address. I think the web-site is www.preferredguest.com
The only trouble is that not everyone takes AMEX. I also have Diners Club - used mainly for car rentals, and AAdvantage (citibank)
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DtG
The only trouble is that not everyone takes AMEX. I also have Diners Club - used mainly for car rentals, and AAdvantage (citibank)
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DtG
#14
Join Date: Apr 1999
Location: SFO
Programs: UA Million Miler (mostly earned on CO)
Posts: 2,599
Another Diners fan here. To add to what EPS said, they usually run a promotion yearly that lets you put any number of Diners points into one of the airline programs at a rate of 2 miles per dollar spent. Last year, you could do it with DL and BA, and this year, they're offering BA again.
There are some downsides, though. The card is a good travel card (airlines, hotels) but otherwise is not widely accepted in the US (if that's where you're from). They charge $35 for an extra card. And the $85 annual fee is one of the highest.
I carry Diners, Starwood Amex, and Alaska Visa and use them in that order of preference.
(Needless to say, if you need a sponsor for your Diners app... )
There are some downsides, though. The card is a good travel card (airlines, hotels) but otherwise is not widely accepted in the US (if that's where you're from). They charge $35 for an extra card. And the $85 annual fee is one of the highest.
I carry Diners, Starwood Amex, and Alaska Visa and use them in that order of preference.
(Needless to say, if you need a sponsor for your Diners app... )