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FlyerTalker01565

K[...]wings won't get my business, that's for sure. Say goodbye to 150-200K. It'll be all BA from there.

fassy

As long as the deal comes with EB points earnings and lounge access for EBGs traveling that routes they can transfer their routes to whoever they like

Btw, I have absolutely no complains about EuroWings. In economy even better service than on SK. The only thing putting me off is missing points earning and no lounge access

Passmethesickbag

Very natural. Sadly, SAS hasn't left anything for us to love onboard their European routes on either side of the no-longer-existing curtain.

highupinthesky

Can you name an airline (not counting ryanair, easy jet and similar discount airlines) who has worse service in eco. than SK?

highupinthesky

Well as far as I understand it was someone at LH/Eurowings how openly pictured his dream, but that dream was quickly shot down by SK. But some media wont blink twice before they print any rumor about SK being merged with another airline.

Beside that I won't say SK is my beloved airline. But living 30 min. from CPH and traveling a lot to US, Asia and Europa, SK do have the most routes which all in all fit my travel pattern the best.

Passmethesickbag

Rather understandable isn't it? In terms of long-term survival, it is the best that SK could hope for. But the opposite would apply to the airline that merged with them.

highupinthesky

I could easily see SK as an airline in the LH group on the same terms as LX, but merged with EuroWings doesn't make sense to me, unless you split SK in two, so you keep the long haul on LX terms and move all the short haul to EuroWings. But I'm pretty sure they will loos a lot of the SK customers that way.

The wet lease model SK do with Cimber is IMHO better than the code share LH does with EuroWings. Both companies get a cheaper operation model, but SK sells the ticket under their brand and with their benefits, where as LH just get cheap flights.
If I want to fly cheap I'll go for ryanair. Even Eurowings can't compete with them on price. So far I've never used ryanair, and I have no plans to change that.

Passmethesickbag

I agree — don't get it. Skimp on the onboard product and the staff contracts if you have to, but why turn off customers by selling it as a different brand without key features external to the actual operation of the flight? Granted, AC Jazz is still alive, but CO Light and UA's TED were abandoned years ago. And they didn't even have a pilot flying a plane into a mountain!

highupinthesky

No wonder TED doesn't exist anymore. I flew with them twice. Once they couldn't start the engines without external help, and the other time the cover was missing on the one of the pylons for the flaps. Wonder how they were allowed to fly with those two planes. The cabin wasn't any better on any of the planes by the way.
UA are today using the wet leashing model like SK are with Cimber. I'm not sure how many cheap operating companies UA have but until now I've counted at least two.

One good thing about TED all through. They had a channel on the inflight entertainment, so you could listen in on the flight - tower communication. Nice feature that I'm missing together with the outside cameras on the refurbished SK 330 and 340 birds.

Passmethesickbag

Actually Channel 9 is a feature of all United flights. Or at least it was (at the Captain's discretion), when we broke up four years ago.

oliver2002

UAs principal wetlease operator Republic (which also operates for DL) went bankrupt some months ago, there is not much money to be made from carriers that way.

TED was operated with UA mainline crew and aircraft, it was more SAS Snowflake kind of set up: fly single cabin A320 to leisure destinations.

highupinthesky

I haven't been on a UA domestic flight the last 2-3 years where they still had the old cable based inflight entertainment. Either there were no inflight entertainment, or they have rolled out the new online based inflight entertainment which only works if you have a tablet/laptop/big smart phone.

worldwidedreamer

SK makes Air India seem luxurious...with its free Diet Pepsi and wine from unique appellations.

oliver2002

AI serves a warm meal on 90 min flights in economy, SK hasn't done that in 20 years.