MEL-HKG mid-air incident
Apr 12, 2017, 4:17 pm
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MEL-HKG mid-air incident
How serious of an issue was this?
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/busi...12-gvjz5k.html
"Pilots reported feeling "airframe buffeting", a potential warning the plane is about to stall, while "holding" at 22,000 feet.
The flight crew also received a "stick shaker activation", the Australian Transport Safety Bureau said. The stick shaker device causes the aircraft's control stick to vibrate noisily to warn the pilot of an imminent stall."
Cause it doesn't sound great...
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/busi...12-gvjz5k.html
"Pilots reported feeling "airframe buffeting", a potential warning the plane is about to stall, while "holding" at 22,000 feet.
The flight crew also received a "stick shaker activation", the Australian Transport Safety Bureau said. The stick shaker device causes the aircraft's control stick to vibrate noisily to warn the pilot of an imminent stall."
Cause it doesn't sound great...
Apr 12, 2017, 10:20 pm
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The B747 has survived much worse in the past (Air China 006 stall in 1985 pops to mind). That pulled 5g before being recovered and landing safely. Very rugged and capable airframe for the B747 (wonder if modern aircraft can do likewise?). The ATSB investigation will find the root cause but superficially sounds like autopilot error combined with some strange wind conditions (maybe shear). QF pilots also have a reputation for being exceptionally competent, I'd have been happy to be on that plane.
Apr 14, 2017, 6:49 pm
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Taiwan vs PRC. It was of course the TPE flight as PRC didn't fly to USA 30 years ago. Back on the topic of safety of B747s, looked up the incident and the wings were bent upwards by 2 inches due to this little incident, and stayed that way for the life of the plane (next 20 years). Wonder if composite airframes will work the same way?
Apr 15, 2017, 9:20 am
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Likewise is how composite time/cycle expired airframes will be recycled.
Apr 13, 2019, 4:15 am
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How serious of an issue was this?
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/busi...12-gvjz5k.html
"Pilots reported feeling "airframe buffeting", a potential warning the plane is about to stall, while "holding" at 22,000 feet.
The flight crew also received a "stick shaker activation", the Australian Transport Safety Bureau said. The stick shaker device causes the aircraft's control stick to vibrate noisily to warn the pilot of an imminent stall."
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/busi...12-gvjz5k.html
"Pilots reported feeling "airframe buffeting", a potential warning the plane is about to stall, while "holding" at 22,000 feet.
The flight crew also received a "stick shaker activation", the Australian Transport Safety Bureau said. The stick shaker device causes the aircraft's control stick to vibrate noisily to warn the pilot of an imminent stall."
So far as the passengers are concerned, I think I feel more for the person in L5 than the person in 63C.