A330-200 Domestic J Class opinions
#1
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A330-200 Domestic J Class opinions
Hi Everyone,
I'm a long time lurker in this forum, first time poster though I need to start somewhere...
To my question - I've got a booking for a Qantas Domestic Flight coming up in a few weeks time (QF485 MEL>PER), the flight has a 2-3-2 seating configuration in business that I haven't seen before, does anyone have any experiance with this configuration? Are the seats comfortable or is it just an overpriced economy seat?
The Qantas website seems to go out of it's way to be deceptive by not directly linking to the specific seating configuration that is being run and not mentioning anything but skybed's in the brief http://www.qantas.com.au/travel/airl...-332/global/en - I only realised when I went into do my seat selection where I choose a window seat.
Any thoughts on these seats?
I'm a long time lurker in this forum, first time poster though I need to start somewhere...
To my question - I've got a booking for a Qantas Domestic Flight coming up in a few weeks time (QF485 MEL>PER), the flight has a 2-3-2 seating configuration in business that I haven't seen before, does anyone have any experiance with this configuration? Are the seats comfortable or is it just an overpriced economy seat?
The Qantas website seems to go out of it's way to be deceptive by not directly linking to the specific seating configuration that is being run and not mentioning anything but skybed's in the brief http://www.qantas.com.au/travel/airl...-332/global/en - I only realised when I went into do my seat selection where I choose a window seat.
Any thoughts on these seats?
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Welcome to FlyerTalk!
quite a few comments in here...
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/qanta...0-200-ebo.html
quite a few comments in here...
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/qanta...0-200-ebo.html
#3
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....The Qantas website seems to go out of it's way to be deceptive by not directly linking to the specific seating configuration that is being run and not mentioning anything but skybed's in the brief http://www.qantas.com.au/travel/airl...-332/global/en - ...
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I believe there are 2 in this configuration VH-EBO and EBP. It is 42J and 268Y, whereas the other 2 on domestic duties are 36J and 265Y. Both configurations are linked from the page in the OP.
#8
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Maybe with enough feedback QF will reconsider, it does seem ill advised to have such a poor looking dense config just to get a few extra J seats on the 332. Seems to defeat the point, which is a shame as many of QF's past seating configs were well thought out and successful, this one is not.
I'll come back with some photos and a trip report after my flight.
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Just enjoy the J lounge and enjoy the ride once on board.
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I don't think that they should be following other carriers lead in 'downgrading' business given Qantas don't seem to be able to sell out Business seats on most Perth legs for cash apart from peak times, some real competition for business fares would probably do the Australian market a world of good though it might end up that they'll need to pack more people onto planes to compete so I need to be careful what I wish for
#11
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point taken, it just irks me when companies start forgetting about their best customers who are paying a huge premium for shrinking benefits (I get J lounge access with my platinum membership anyway so I'm really just paying for the seat and service).
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I don't think that they should be following other carriers lead in 'downgrading' business given Qantas don't seem to be able to sell out Business seats on most Perth legs for cash apart from peak times, some real competition for business fares would probably do the Australian market a world of good though it might end up that they'll need to pack more people onto planes to compete so I need to be careful what I wish for
I wouldnt consider the J service on domestic flights a downgrade, it is significantly better than the alternative.
Competition on J fares wont see more people pay for it, because prices wont materially fall vs the highest econony rate. It will however have the potential to make filling J more difficult, resulting in more ODU's.
When ANsett flew I never paid a J fare and only 2 or 3 flights in 10 would I not sit in J because of availability. Now it would be 2 or 3 in 10 that an ODU is available
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I flew on it and I will say it felt tight.
I cannot remember if pitch was smaller, it did feel it, but the seat width is not that different from the Millenium Seat. The fact that the aisles are noticably smaller and I was bumped several times by pax and crew made me . Shoulder room was okay but I do not know what it would be like in the middle as I was travelling on the window aisle.
I recently filled in a QF Panel survey on the configurations and stated that this looked like a Premium Economy product and if DJ bring a competitive Business Class then I would not pay QF for this product.
I cannot remember if pitch was smaller, it did feel it, but the seat width is not that different from the Millenium Seat. The fact that the aisles are noticably smaller and I was bumped several times by pax and crew made me . Shoulder room was okay but I do not know what it would be like in the middle as I was travelling on the window aisle.
I recently filled in a QF Panel survey on the configurations and stated that this looked like a Premium Economy product and if DJ bring a competitive Business Class then I would not pay QF for this product.
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Gosh. A 2-3-2 configuration for J class on a A332 is pretty tight. That is literally premium economy, just like what's on JQ and their Star Class. I wouldn't pay those exorbitant business class fares for those seats. Only the Skybeds Mk1 are deserving of such outrageously high prices!!
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Gosh. A 2-3-2 configuration for J class on a A332 is pretty tight. That is literally premium economy, just like what's on JQ and their Star Class. I wouldn't pay those exorbitant business class fares for those seats. Only the Skybeds Mk1 are deserving of such outrageously high prices!!