Entry into Canada with expired passport?
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Entry into Canada with expired passport?
I am a Canadian citizen living in Los Angeles. I'm supposed to go to Canada this evening and have just realized my passport expired 5 days ago. Will I be able to board the plane? I have plenty of time to renew my passport once I reach Canada so I'm not worried about re-entering the US. I'm flying on Continental from LAX through Newark to Halifax. Most info I've seen online says that a valid passport is needed. The airline agent said she just go to the airport anyway and try. Is it worth trying? Thanks.
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I am a Canadian citizen living in Los Angeles. I'm supposed to go to Canada this evening and have just realized my passport expired 5 days ago. Will I be able to board the plane? I have plenty of time to renew my passport once I reach Canada so I'm not worried about re-entering the US. I'm flying on Continental from LAX through Newark to Halifax. Most info I've seen online says that a valid passport is needed. The airline agent said she just go to the airport anyway and try. Is it worth trying? Thanks.
I'm not sure if Canada made it official for citizens to show a passport to enter - you should check their website and download/print any documentation that states you can enter Canada as a Canadian citizen with photo ID/birth certificate and be prepared to argue this point with the gate agent whose rulebook states a passport is required. You may want to get this documentation ready, get on the phone with a manager at CO, and have them enter some notes on your reservation clearing you to board if you have photo ID/birth certificate or an expired passport.
Before you do anything - remember that you can go to the Canadian consulate and they will make a temporary passport for you on the spot if you show proof of imminent departure and include a letter stating the trip is for work and your employer is requiring you to go.
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I am a Canadian citizen living in Los Angeles. I'm supposed to go to Canada this evening and have just realized my passport expired 5 days ago. Will I be able to board the plane? I have plenty of time to renew my passport once I reach Canada so I'm not worried about re-entering the US. I'm flying on Continental from LAX through Newark to Halifax. Most info I've seen online says that a valid passport is needed. The airline agent said she just go to the airport anyway and try. Is it worth trying? Thanks.
Note: Under U.S. law, all travellers (including Canadians) departing the United States by air to any destination (including Canada) must present a valid passport (or a NEXUS card for return to Canada only). For example, if a Canadian citizen enters the United States by land by presenting acceptable documents other than a passport, and then plans to board a flight in the United States destined for Mexico (i.e. an international destination other than Canada), a valid passport is required for the air travel portion. Similarly, if a Canadian citizen drives to the United States and returns to Canada by air, a valid passport or a NEXUS card must be presented to board the plane. It is important to note that a passport is not mandatory for air travel within the United States.
Canadian citizens intending to fly to, through or from the United States should apply for a passport, keep it up to date and carry it with them when traveling. For more information about passports, please visit Passport Canada's Web site.
Canadian citizens intending to fly to, through or from the United States should apply for a passport, keep it up to date and carry it with them when traveling. For more information about passports, please visit Passport Canada's Web site.
I would try to leave the USA with the expired passport, and if that does not work, cancel the flight, and use the credit toward a flight to a border city, and fly there. Then cross over by land and take a flight to your destination in Canada.
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The kiosk will ask for passport number and date of expiration. So that won't work. Must use the check in counter.
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Theoretically, you just have to provide sufficient proof that you're a Canadian citizen (birth certificate, certificate of citizenship, not sure if an expired passport will cut muster). The airlines may interpret rules differently though.
Here's the rules on TIMATIC assuming you're resident in the U.S.
Here's the rules on TIMATIC assuming you're resident in the U.S.
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National Canada (CA) /Residence U.S.A. (US)
Embarkation U.S.A. (US) /Destination Canada (CA)
Canada (CA)
Passport required.
- Passport or passport replacing documents issued to nationals
of Canada must be valid on arrival.
- Warning: if departing from the U.S.A.(regardless of any
destination passport exemptions), a valid passport and/or
accepted departure document (TIRULES/R9) is required by
the U.S. immigration authorities.
Passport Exemptions:
- Recommended proof of citizenship, issued to nationals of
Canada, such as:
- - Canadian Birth Certificate; or
- Certificate of Canadian Citizenship.
- Nationals of Canada holding a valid on arrival NEXUS card,
and:For details, click here
- Legal permanent residents of the U.S.A. holding Permanent
Resident/Resident Alien Card (Form I-551) and seeking entry
to Canada from:
VISA NOT REQUIRED.
Minors:
- Parent(s) travelling with a child under 18 years are
strongly advised to For details, click here
Additional Information:
- Those claiming to be Canadian citizens, presenting documents
other than a valid Canadian passport will be granted entry
upon arrival only if, following an examination by a Canadian
Border Services Officer, they satisfy the officer that they
are a Canadian Citizen.
- Documents issued to nationals of Canada that do not
incorporate a photograph, should be accompanied by
supporting government issued photo identification (e.g.
driver's licence).
National Canada (CA) /Residence U.S.A. (US)
Embarkation U.S.A. (US) /Destination Canada (CA)
Canada (CA)
Passport required.
- Passport or passport replacing documents issued to nationals
of Canada must be valid on arrival.
- Warning: if departing from the U.S.A.(regardless of any
destination passport exemptions), a valid passport and/or
accepted departure document (TIRULES/R9) is required by
the U.S. immigration authorities.
Passport Exemptions:
- Recommended proof of citizenship, issued to nationals of
Canada, such as:
- - Canadian Birth Certificate; or
- Certificate of Canadian Citizenship.
- Nationals of Canada holding a valid on arrival NEXUS card,
and:For details, click here
- Legal permanent residents of the U.S.A. holding Permanent
Resident/Resident Alien Card (Form I-551) and seeking entry
to Canada from:
VISA NOT REQUIRED.
Minors:
- Parent(s) travelling with a child under 18 years are
strongly advised to For details, click here
Additional Information:
- Those claiming to be Canadian citizens, presenting documents
other than a valid Canadian passport will be granted entry
upon arrival only if, following an examination by a Canadian
Border Services Officer, they satisfy the officer that they
are a Canadian Citizen.
- Documents issued to nationals of Canada that do not
incorporate a photograph, should be accompanied by
supporting government issued photo identification (e.g.
driver's licence).
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Update
According to an agent at the Canadian Border Services a Canadian can enter Canada through air, sea, or land with a birth certificate. I presume that some photo ID would facilitate the process.
An agent from US Customs and Border Protection says there is no restriction on me leaving (in her words: "we're not a communist country, we won't force you to stay. If your passport is expired we prefer that you leave".) The TSA people said that they would only check for some form of ID, such as a valid drivers license.
I think that the only stumbling block is the airline people. I'll post follow-up details here after I go through the process.
Thanks for everyone's help.
An agent from US Customs and Border Protection says there is no restriction on me leaving (in her words: "we're not a communist country, we won't force you to stay. If your passport is expired we prefer that you leave".) The TSA people said that they would only check for some form of ID, such as a valid drivers license.
I think that the only stumbling block is the airline people. I'll post follow-up details here after I go through the process.
Thanks for everyone's help.
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You should experience little (if any) difficulty with CBSA when presenting your expired passport to the officer. As a Canadian citizen, you have the right to enter Canada and an officer shall allow you to do so if satisfied following examination on your entry that you are a citizen.
You're correct that your only stumbling block would be with the transporter.
You're correct that your only stumbling block would be with the transporter.
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Not to get too off topic, but wow, they prefer a tax paying legal resident leave?
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According to Citizenship and Immigration Canada, "As a matter of policy, Canadian citizens cannot [make a claim for refugee protection]. Canadian citizens already enjoy the protection of Canadian citizenship and the accompanying benefit of the unqualified right to return to Canada."
I have to wonder why this would even have to be addressed in an operational manual. Of course, if no one knows you're a Canadian citizen....
I have to wonder why this would even have to be addressed in an operational manual. Of course, if no one knows you're a Canadian citizen....
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That's CBP/ICE. The IRS technically requires you to obtain a "sailing permit".
The last time I entered Canada without a passport, I presented my Alberta birth certificate and Colorado drivers license as proof of Canadian citizenship. The bright bulb in Canadian CBP (YUL) asked me what country I was a citizen of, and the address of my hotel in Montreal. The bulbs are no brighter in YVR either (despite all that electric current they keep handy for powering tasers) ... they always ask me for my hotel address.
Do US and Canadian border control people ever mate?
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The last time I entered Canada without a passport, I presented my Alberta birth certificate and Colorado drivers license as proof of Canadian citizenship. The bright bulb in Canadian CBP (YUL) asked me what country I was a citizen of, and the address of my hotel in Montreal. The bulbs are no brighter in YVR either (despite all that electric current they keep handy for powering tasers) ... they always ask me for my hotel address.
And the taser comment—just plain ignorant.
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Someone should remind Stephen Harper of that (re: Abdelrazik
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