Qantas and Emirates?? Affect on OneWorld?
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Major announcements today from Qantas including:
Press releases:
http://www.qantas.com.au/travel/airl...5440/global/en
http://www.qantas.com.au/travel/airl...5441/global/en
http://www.qantas.com.au/travel/airl...5442/global/en
- JBV with IAG/BA to end.
- Major new partnership details with EK, including code sharing, FF plan coordination, schedule synchronization, etc.
- Europe - Oz routes to focus on DXB and not SIN; HKG and SIN to be foci for Oz-Asia services
- FRA service discontinued
Press releases:
http://www.qantas.com.au/travel/airl...5440/global/en
http://www.qantas.com.au/travel/airl...5441/global/en
http://www.qantas.com.au/travel/airl...5442/global/en
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Back on point. Is this the end of ONEWORLD? The break up of the BA/QF marketing deal can't bode well even though it does reflect the new reality of global flying patterns. Of course, this was inevitable once the Australian and NZ governments gave EK carte blanche to flood the two countries with cheap seats and syphon away customers from once-healthy national carriers. Let this be a warning to all countries who let the EK camel stick more than a snout into the tent!
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No, this is a logical realignment of QF's international operations and international oneworld focus cities partially as a response to Malaysian joining oneworld. It just doesn't make sense for oneworld to have a focus city in Singapore with a major hub in Kuala Lumpur, so the kangaroo routes are being replaced. QF went shopping for a new international partner to fill that void and improve their revenue projections, it seems EK was their best option (though I would have expected EY).
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Back on point. Is this the end of ONEWORLD? The break up of the BA/QF marketing deal can't bode well even though it does reflect the new reality of global flying patterns. Of course, this was inevitable once the Australian and NZ governments gave EK carte blanche to flood the two countries with cheap seats and syphon away customers from once-healthy national carriers. Let this be a warning to all countries who let the EK camel stick more than a snout into the tent!
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QF and BA have put out a statement seemingly trying to stress (in addition to a few other things) that this is not the case. See my post on the QF forum:-
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/19266808-post45.html
Especially see this bit: "IAG chief executive Willie Walsh said: “...Qantas has made it clear that its international performance has been weak and the termination of the joint business won’t have any negative impact on IAG’s financial targets. The good relationship that we have with Qantas CEO Alan Joyce and his team will continue through our joint membership of oneworld”.
QF codeshares on BA for e.g. will remain.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/19266808-post45.html
Especially see this bit: "IAG chief executive Willie Walsh said: “...Qantas has made it clear that its international performance has been weak and the termination of the joint business won’t have any negative impact on IAG’s financial targets. The good relationship that we have with Qantas CEO Alan Joyce and his team will continue through our joint membership of oneworld”.
QF codeshares on BA for e.g. will remain.
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xONE3 from SWP?
One interesting benefit ithat may result would be that a xONE3 ex/via SWP would now be possible. Dubai is in the Europe zone for the Oneworld Explorer fares!
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If anything this strengthens Oneworld, by raising fare levels ex-Oz and letting MH turn a profit Maybe the regulators will impose conditions to mitigate the anti-competitive effects, but QF has been building the fake losses story quite effectively. And Joyce let slip that the 787-9 options will be delivered in 2016 provided the EK deal is approved.
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But - as I said in the linked thread - in any case, we will have to wait and see with regard to QF's proposed SWP-Europe* non-stop flights
*Europe - as defined in the xONEx rules, i.e. including the Middle East
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