[PREM FARE GONE] JL/AA: SEL-NYC r/t in F as low as $2,800
Jun 23, 2017, 12:25 am
#496
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Southern Cali
Programs: AA ExPlat, Marriott Titanium, HH Diamond
Posts: 2,022
The thing about this fare is, it is pretty unique so many agents don't know how to properly deal with it. As long as you keep calling and mentioning you've flown the first segments, and are booked in F/J classes, you'll eventually find an agent who is willing to help
Jun 23, 2017, 4:02 pm
#497
Join Date: Jan 2015
Programs: AA EXP/OWE
Posts: 12
Sitting at JFK having just arrived from flying GMP-HND-JFK.
First of all, thanks again to the OP for posting this fare availability.
Second, I must say that I found JL F a bit underwhelming.
The hard product was great - one of the best sleeps I have had on a plane.
Seat is great, IFE screen/controls are good.
But soft product, from lounge in Tokyo, to ground service at both ends,
to food/beverage on board, to IFE content - all disappointed me. Definitely
not up to SQ/LH F experience.
And I must say that the caviar service was the most unusual that I have had in my life.
No onions, no lemon ( until I requested it), no blinis, no sourcream. It was just served
with some mashed up egg yolk, and 2 pieces of what looked like shrimp crackers.
The container size was about 20% the size of that served on SQ/LH.
First of all, thanks again to the OP for posting this fare availability.
Second, I must say that I found JL F a bit underwhelming.
The hard product was great - one of the best sleeps I have had on a plane.
Seat is great, IFE screen/controls are good.
But soft product, from lounge in Tokyo, to ground service at both ends,
to food/beverage on board, to IFE content - all disappointed me. Definitely
not up to SQ/LH F experience.
And I must say that the caviar service was the most unusual that I have had in my life.
No onions, no lemon ( until I requested it), no blinis, no sourcream. It was just served
with some mashed up egg yolk, and 2 pieces of what looked like shrimp crackers.
The container size was about 20% the size of that served on SQ/LH.
The only thing I missed was having a crew that spoke better English. None of my jokes landed thanks to a language barrier, but that didn't stop me from enjoying the precise fantastic service offered.
Jun 23, 2017, 8:57 pm
#498
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 61
As a follow up, I was able to make my date change today. Thanks for all the info in this thread!
I called ~11am (pacific time), and got an agent that called an actually helpful "help desk" when the computer wanted to charge an additional ~$3K fare.
My previous phone call was ~6:30pm pacific time, which is probably too late for an eastern/central time zone based company.
Maybe this fare trips up the AA computers, and you need someone knowledgeable to process the change without up-faring the ticket. I most likely will also change the final TYO flight (to sometime in 2018, once my schedule is more set), and I will be calling during regular east coast business hours to make that date change.
I called ~11am (pacific time), and got an agent that called an actually helpful "help desk" when the computer wanted to charge an additional ~$3K fare.
My previous phone call was ~6:30pm pacific time, which is probably too late for an eastern/central time zone based company.
Maybe this fare trips up the AA computers, and you need someone knowledgeable to process the change without up-faring the ticket. I most likely will also change the final TYO flight (to sometime in 2018, once my schedule is more set), and I will be calling during regular east coast business hours to make that date change.
Jul 1, 2017, 7:35 pm
#499
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Southern Cali
Programs: AA ExPlat, Marriott Titanium, HH Diamond
Posts: 2,022
Finally took my last flights. AA credited these as special fare too.
LAX-NRT-ICN
18,714 EQM
1,873 EQD
16,845 RDM as an ExPlat
Thanks again OP for providing this amazing deal
LAX-NRT-ICN
18,714 EQM
1,873 EQD
16,845 RDM as an ExPlat
Thanks again OP for providing this amazing deal
Jul 31, 2017, 1:11 pm
#500
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: RDU
Programs: AA EXP; Marriott Titanium; Globalist
Posts: 376
Finished first half of trip last week.
The calculation for the JL leg was based on distance and the JL as AA codeshare was based on fare. I did make a minor change on the outbound due to the JL schedule change and modified to leave from NRT later in the day rather than from HND but did not change any dates.
GMP-HND (JL) NRT-JFK (JL as AA codeshare)
21,336 EQM
1,334 EQD
14,672 RDM as an ExecPlat
The calculation for the JL leg was based on distance and the JL as AA codeshare was based on fare. I did make a minor change on the outbound due to the JL schedule change and modified to leave from NRT later in the day rather than from HND but did not change any dates.
GMP-HND (JL) NRT-JFK (JL as AA codeshare)
21,336 EQM
1,334 EQD
14,672 RDM as an ExecPlat
Aug 6, 2017, 8:55 pm
#501
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: RDU
Programs: AA EXP; Marriott Titanium; Globalist
Posts: 376
Was able to change my last half of the trip which had JFK-HND-GMP departing originally in early November. I pushed this back to an early January departure. I also tweaked the connection flight from HND-GMP so I wouldn't have to overnight in Tokyo as originally required on the ticket.
It took a while to ticket but no pushback from agent and it was very smooth.
I politely informed her upfront that I had been told that once I flew part of this itinerary that I was allowed to make changes on later flights. Not sure if that helped or not since they have the fare rules.
Called in at about 10:305 pm EDT tonight and spoke to agent in Dallas who seemed knowledgeable and seasoned when chatting with her.
Update 8/8 am: it took about 36 hours for the ticket to be reissued as the status was "Requested" online for quite a while. I was getting a bit worried but the email ticket showed up this morning. Also it is odd that although online I could see the modified flights as changed, when I viewed the reservation on the AA app it was still (and as now) showing the old flights. I think I'm all set and this will be a good start on EQMs for 2018 and dovetails nicely with another good fare booked originating in NRT.
Update 8/10: The AA app was still showing the old itinerary for a couple of days. However, I logged out of the app and then back in. That seemed to take care of the issue and it now shows the updated and changed itinerary. I am not sure if this is because of the ticket and the original delay or if there is a bug in the AA app. All's well.
It took a while to ticket but no pushback from agent and it was very smooth.
I politely informed her upfront that I had been told that once I flew part of this itinerary that I was allowed to make changes on later flights. Not sure if that helped or not since they have the fare rules.
Called in at about 10:305 pm EDT tonight and spoke to agent in Dallas who seemed knowledgeable and seasoned when chatting with her.
Update 8/8 am: it took about 36 hours for the ticket to be reissued as the status was "Requested" online for quite a while. I was getting a bit worried but the email ticket showed up this morning. Also it is odd that although online I could see the modified flights as changed, when I viewed the reservation on the AA app it was still (and as now) showing the old flights. I think I'm all set and this will be a good start on EQMs for 2018 and dovetails nicely with another good fare booked originating in NRT.
Update 8/10: The AA app was still showing the old itinerary for a couple of days. However, I logged out of the app and then back in. That seemed to take care of the issue and it now shows the updated and changed itinerary. I am not sure if this is because of the ticket and the original delay or if there is a bug in the AA app. All's well.
Last edited by RDUflyer2; Aug 10, 2017 at 11:22 am Reason: Add additional information re: ticketing
Sep 3, 2017, 1:46 am
#502
Join Date: Sep 2005
Programs: AC MM E50 , Former SPG, now Marriott LT Plat
Posts: 6,261
Just flew the return portion JFK-HND, and am in the lounge awaiting my connection to GMP. I found this flight much more enjoyable than the outbound - the food was
excellent - comparable to a first class restaurant on the ground. When I enthused over
the Japanese meal, the crew trotted out the chef to accept my accolades- I did not realize that they had a chef on board who prepared the meals.
Once more, thank you to the OP.
The only downer was the Air France Lounge at JFK - definitely sub par and despite
having 4 wireless servers there were too many users to maintain a connection.
excellent - comparable to a first class restaurant on the ground. When I enthused over
the Japanese meal, the crew trotted out the chef to accept my accolades- I did not realize that they had a chef on board who prepared the meals.
Once more, thank you to the OP.
The only downer was the Air France Lounge at JFK - definitely sub par and despite
having 4 wireless servers there were too many users to maintain a connection.
Sep 10, 2017, 3:07 pm
#505
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 291
My reservation is like:
Day 1: JFK-NRT, arriving on day 2
Day 2: NRT-SIN (different booking)
Day 3: NRT-ICN
The thing is I need a visa to enter either NRT or ICN. My understanding is that I can simply say I'm going to SIN (no visa needed) when I check in at JFK. I'm just afraid the check in agent may require an ICN visa or something. The Japanese (and agents working for JL) are quite strict when it comes to rule.
That's why I want to drop the last leg. I'm calling (like every 2 days) to drop it or move it to a further date and I always get a quote for $10k or $8k
Update: I found an agent who helped me changed the leg NRT-ICN to a much later date. I'll just no-show it then. The key difference is that the agent has to look for the AA flight number when making the change, thus no change fee or fare difference. What they usually do is try to change it to a JL coded flight, thus the fare difference.
Day 1: JFK-NRT, arriving on day 2
Day 2: NRT-SIN (different booking)
Day 3: NRT-ICN
The thing is I need a visa to enter either NRT or ICN. My understanding is that I can simply say I'm going to SIN (no visa needed) when I check in at JFK. I'm just afraid the check in agent may require an ICN visa or something. The Japanese (and agents working for JL) are quite strict when it comes to rule.
That's why I want to drop the last leg. I'm calling (like every 2 days) to drop it or move it to a further date and I always get a quote for $10k or $8k
Update: I found an agent who helped me changed the leg NRT-ICN to a much later date. I'll just no-show it then. The key difference is that the agent has to look for the AA flight number when making the change, thus no change fee or fare difference. What they usually do is try to change it to a JL coded flight, thus the fare difference.
Last edited by mbfanos; Sep 14, 2017 at 10:04 am
Nov 3, 2017, 7:23 am
#506
Join Date: Jun 2007
Programs: AA Lifetime Gold, AA Exec Plat
Posts: 715
Anyone have luck changing from AA flight numbers to JL numbers? My flight from HND-SFO was JL numbers, but my return flight are AA numbers.
Mar 13, 2018, 5:35 pm
#507
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 34
Is there any restriction in when changes can be made for unflown segments?
Fare ticketed Dec 13 2016, first outbound segment was sometime in early June 2017. I have 1yr to complete itinerary but is there any restriction as to last date I can make date changes? I had an AA agent tell me it's 1yr from when the ticket was issued so no further changes permitted. However, that doesn't really make sense if I have 1yr to use the ticket from 1st outbound flight (June 2017)? Can anyone shed some light?
I have the return transpac segement to complete and would be a shame if I can't use it...
Fare ticketed Dec 13 2016, first outbound segment was sometime in early June 2017. I have 1yr to complete itinerary but is there any restriction as to last date I can make date changes? I had an AA agent tell me it's 1yr from when the ticket was issued so no further changes permitted. However, that doesn't really make sense if I have 1yr to use the ticket from 1st outbound flight (June 2017)? Can anyone shed some light?
I have the return transpac segement to complete and would be a shame if I can't use it...
Mar 17, 2018, 1:04 am
#508
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 61
Is there any restriction in when changes can be made for unflown segments?
Fare ticketed Dec 13 2016, first outbound segment was sometime in early June 2017. I have 1yr to complete itinerary but is there any restriction as to last date I can make date changes? I had an AA agent tell me it's 1yr from when the ticket was issued so no further changes permitted. However, that doesn't really make sense if I have 1yr to use the ticket from 1st outbound flight (June 2017)? Can anyone shed some light?
I have the return transpac segement to complete and would be a shame if I can't use it...
Fare ticketed Dec 13 2016, first outbound segment was sometime in early June 2017. I have 1yr to complete itinerary but is there any restriction as to last date I can make date changes? I had an AA agent tell me it's 1yr from when the ticket was issued so no further changes permitted. However, that doesn't really make sense if I have 1yr to use the ticket from 1st outbound flight (June 2017)? Can anyone shed some light?
I have the return transpac segement to complete and would be a shame if I can't use it...
Also, every flight segment has to start before the expiration, including the TYO-SEL flight. This means you can't fly to Tokyo on the very last day of the fare validity, since TYO-SEL has to be on the following day when the ticket has expired.
Apr 4, 2018, 3:14 am
#509
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 34
Anyone still have an open ticket for this?
Am running into problems trying to change last few segments. Rates desk wants to collect for incorrectly ticketed fare! Says there was supposed to be premium for going over certain mileage but was never collected? Anyone know MPM on this fare?
Am running into problems trying to change last few segments. Rates desk wants to collect for incorrectly ticketed fare! Says there was supposed to be premium for going over certain mileage but was never collected? Anyone know MPM on this fare?