Last edit by: irishguy28
Unofficial cancellation statement from Alitalia: see post #2414, or the original post in Italian on a similar Italian forum
COW8C fare rules available in post #147 (second box)
DOW8C fare rules available in post #150
IOWGE fare rules available in post #1241
IRTGE fare rules available in post #1555
CRTEU fare rules available in post #1589
DOWGE fare rules available in post #1601
IRT8C2 fare rules available in post #2105
COW8C fare rules available in post #147 (second box)
DOW8C fare rules available in post #150
IOWGE fare rules available in post #1241
IRTGE fare rules available in post #1555
CRTEU fare rules available in post #1589
DOWGE fare rules available in post #1601
IRT8C2 fare rules available in post #2105
[PREM FARE GONE] FLR-HKG/ICN/NRT-DUS from 770€ / J
#3841
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You have an empty shell of a reservation that survived the hatchet job by Alitalia, because what was done was unorthodox and not what the system was designed to recognise and handle.
Unless you can look up your new, current e-ticket number and see that the e-ticket is alive, then looking up PNRs on any website is basically a waste of time, and what may appear to be a confirmed reservation in any other circumstance is nothing of the sort in these cases.
The only prospect of your e-ticket being alive is if it was issued by someone other than Alitalia (ie: does not start with 055). Otherwise, you only have a simple, extremely-highly-priced one-way ticket between Germany and Italy or v.v.
#3842
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Europe
Programs: Alitalia Freccia Alata +
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Thank you for taking the time to summarize the hundreds of pages of information. I did read through it but there was so much it was hard to understand.
Actually my airline ticket prefix is (104) which would be Eurowings.
In this case what are my options?
Actually my airline ticket prefix is (104) which would be Eurowings.
In this case what are my options?
#3843
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Look up your e-ticket number on the Saudi Airlines website here. As you've probably not used the site before, you will probably be asked to select country and language (country doesn't matter - just select English, or whatever your preferred language is). When you get to the website proper, click the "Manage Booking" tab, and enter your e-ticket number, and surname, in the relevant fields. If your eticket does start with 104, then this goes in the separate small box on the left - enter the rest of the digits on the longer box on the right.
I would be very interested to see what this reports your e-ticket as being. Watch out for any statemetns of the type "Coupon Exchanged/Refunded".
#3845
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Europe
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Yes, i guess I am dumb.
It was the 055 prefix it just wasn't listed when i had pulled it from the alitalia site.
Yep, go the dreaded "Exch/Reissued".
I guess I will get that refund..
It was the 055 prefix it just wasn't listed when i had pulled it from the alitalia site.
Yep, go the dreaded "Exch/Reissued".
I guess I will get that refund..
#3846
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#3848
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I have a 006 ticket which has remained untouched. I got a call from KLM this morning asking if I intended to fly the ticket. I said yes. Agent said that no changes would be allowed on the ticket, and if segments were used out of sequence, the ticket would become invalid. I said that was fine with me, but I was puzzled by the second half of the statement. How can you use segments out of sequence?
Anyhow, my ticket is still good to go.
Anyhow, my ticket is still good to go.
#3849
Join Date: Nov 2014
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I have a 006 ticket which has remained untouched. I got a call from KLM this morning asking if I intended to fly the ticket. I said yes. Agent said that no changes would be allowed on the ticket, and if segments were used out of sequence, the ticket would become invalid. I said that was fine with me, but I was puzzled by the second half of the statement. How can you use segments out of sequence?
Anyhow, my ticket is still good to go.
Anyhow, my ticket is still good to go.
Enjoy the flight!
#3850
Join Date: Sep 2012
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Programs: BA Silver
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I have a 006 ticket which has remained untouched. I got a call from KLM this morning asking if I intended to fly the ticket. I said yes. Agent said that no changes would be allowed on the ticket, and if segments were used out of sequence, the ticket would become invalid. I said that was fine with me, but I was puzzled by the second half of the statement. How can you use segments out of sequence?
Anyhow, my ticket is still good to go.
Anyhow, my ticket is still good to go.
The checkmytrip app pushed a notification yesterday - Alitalia changed the FCO - DUS to a 0800am flight, while the FLR - FCO was still a 1210pm flight, thus making it impossible to take the rerouted segements in order. Very theatrical. They are really doing their effort though
#3851
Join Date: Dec 2006
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I have a 006 ticket which has remained untouched. I got a call from KLM this morning asking if I intended to fly the ticket. I said yes. Agent said that no changes would be allowed on the ticket, and if segments were used out of sequence, the ticket would become invalid. I said that was fine with me, but I was puzzled by the second half of the statement. How can you use segments out of sequence?
Anyhow, my ticket is still good to go.
Anyhow, my ticket is still good to go.
#3852
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Amex Platinum fail!
I had two 055 tickets which were butchered by AZ that I asked Amex to file a dispute on since they hadn't been refunded after a few weeks. Today I got a letter from Amex regarding one the claims (expedia.co.uk):
This is in spite of the fact that I had forwarded a copy of the changed ticket, as well as the email I got from expedia.co.uk on Dec 19 confirming that they would be refunding me in 6-10 days.
Among the documentation Amex enclosed was this little gem from expedia:
Gob smack!
I had two 055 tickets which were butchered by AZ that I asked Amex to file a dispute on since they hadn't been refunded after a few weeks. Today I got a letter from Amex regarding one the claims (expedia.co.uk):
The merchant has replied to our request for information. We have received enclosed documentation from merchant which supports the transaction. As a result previously issued suspension has been reversed and the amount has been reapplied to your account balance.
Among the documentation Amex enclosed was this little gem from expedia:
No. 055-xxxxxxxxxx passenger GIRL/MARGARITA hasn't been used and it is scheduled to fly on XX/XX/2017 it is not refundable as per fare rules, which the card member and passenger agreed to at the time of booking.
For the above reason, we find the claim improper and we cannot accept the chargeback.
Thank you in advance for keeping us informed about this file.
For the above reason, we find the claim improper and we cannot accept the chargeback.
Thank you in advance for keeping us informed about this file.
#3853
Join Date: Jun 2007
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Posts: 1,438
Amex Platinum fail!
I had two 055 tickets which were butchered by AZ that I asked Amex to file a dispute on since they hadn't been refunded after a few weeks. Today I got a letter from Amex regarding one the claims (expedia.co.uk):
This is in spite of the fact that I had forwarded a copy of the changed ticket, as well as the email I got from expedia.co.uk on Dec 19 confirming that they would be refunding me in 6-10 days.
Among the documentation Amex enclosed was this little gem from expedia:
Gob smack!
I had two 055 tickets which were butchered by AZ that I asked Amex to file a dispute on since they hadn't been refunded after a few weeks. Today I got a letter from Amex regarding one the claims (expedia.co.uk):
This is in spite of the fact that I had forwarded a copy of the changed ticket, as well as the email I got from expedia.co.uk on Dec 19 confirming that they would be refunding me in 6-10 days.
Among the documentation Amex enclosed was this little gem from expedia:
Gob smack!
Expedia in general has no idea what is going on unless they read through the case log. My butchered itinerary was showing as confirmed to the agents, and only when I told them the e-tkt has been exchanged prompted them to dig deeper and then they saw the issue.
#3854
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I have a 006 ticket which has remained untouched. I got a call from KLM this morning asking if I intended to fly the ticket. I said yes. Agent said that no changes would be allowed on the ticket, and if segments were used out of sequence, the ticket would become invalid. I said that was fine with me, but I was puzzled by the second half of the statement. How can you use segments out of sequence?
Anyhow, my ticket is still good to go.
Anyhow, my ticket is still good to go.
#3855
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No. 055-xxxxxxxxxx passenger GIRL/MARGARITA hasn't been used and it is scheduled to fly on XX/XX/2017 it is not refundable as per fare rules, which the card member and passenger agreed to at the time of booking.
For the above reason, we find the claim improper and we cannot accept the chargeback.
Thank you in advance for keeping us informed about this file.
For the above reason, we find the claim improper and we cannot accept the chargeback.
Thank you in advance for keeping us informed about this file.
Did you have anything attached to the itinerary except items covered by a plain DUS-FLR or FLR-DUS AZ fare (ie LON-DUS or similar, etc covered by another fare)? If not, then this is a false statement and it should not be left as is. All AZ business class fares were full flex with free changes and refunds.