The Ultimate Guide to Four Seasons Hotels & Resorts
Aug 4, 2017, 10:33 pm
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Four Seasons Contract Falls Through for Hotel du Palais in Biarritz
Please see:
http://www.luxurytraveladvisor.com/h...alais-biarritz
Cheers & Safe Travels. ^
Please see:
http://www.luxurytraveladvisor.com/h...alais-biarritz
Cheers & Safe Travels. ^
Aug 5, 2017, 8:21 am
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interesting find! @uggboy
As the report pointed out, we should stay tuned on this one.
Cheers & Safe Travels. ^
Aug 5, 2017, 6:10 pm
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Originally Posted by uggboy
luxurytraveladvisor.com/hotels/four-seasons-contract-falls-through-for-hotel-du-palais-biarritz
disagreement about the necessary investments in renovating
list of 16 ex FS properties : http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...l#post26600688
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Aug 5, 2017, 8:27 pm
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Aug 5, 2017, 9:07 pm
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Aug 6, 2017, 2:48 am
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some here travel to new hotels under FS and other brands
jeju - some of the villas may be under FS in hotel or rented
55 rooms on 6 floors (5 on 5th, 3 on 6th) + existing michelin + pool/spa
press.fourseasons.com/megeve/hotel-news/2017/introductory-facts-backgrounder
press.fourseasons.com/megeve/hotel-team/francois-arrighi.html
fourseasons.com/megeve/offers/grand-debut-offer-20-off
dec 15 - apr 15
jun 1 - sep 30
jul 2 >
450 08 35–44m2 deluxe
495 31 36–69m2 prestige
1240 6 69–90m2 suite
1365 4 78–100m2 deluxe
____ 3 specialty/named
fourseasons.com/newopenings
jeju - some of the villas may be under FS in hotel or rented
55 rooms on 6 floors (5 on 5th, 3 on 6th) + existing michelin + pool/spa
press.fourseasons.com/megeve/hotel-news/2017/introductory-facts-backgrounder
press.fourseasons.com/megeve/hotel-team/francois-arrighi.html
fourseasons.com/megeve/offers/grand-debut-offer-20-off
dec 15 - apr 15
jun 1 - sep 30
jul 2 >
450 08 35–44m2 deluxe
495 31 36–69m2 prestige
1240 6 69–90m2 suite
1365 4 78–100m2 deluxe
____ 3 specialty/named
fourseasons.com/newopenings
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Aug 6, 2017, 7:49 am
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article includes residential in current/future room counts
so will include multiple hotels, residential sections, etc
fourseasons.com/sharmelsheikh/accommodations
fourseasons.com/sharmelsheikh/destination/resort_map/
https://www.bing.com/maps?osid=b18a7...=2&form=S00027
600BR total (if)
- 140BR in hotel
= 460BR in residence
- 132BR in inventory
- 128BR other 4BR
= 200BR in 100 2BR
what is this above condos? housing for hotel employees?
https://www.bing.com/maps?osid=4526f...=2&form=S00027
some existing residences have own pool etc
hualalai - 300+ current and 200 more
bangkok 350+ , toronto 210 ,
miami 163, NY 157, surfside 150
all FS in egypt include condos
other FS: members, day use, etc
nevis has 139 bedrooms in ~50 villas in hotel inventory
hualalai has ~100 residences that are rented by owners
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Aug 7, 2017, 10:31 am
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partly why some FS dropped, maybe turned down san clemente venice, etc
list of 16 ex FS properties : http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...l#post26600688
list of 16 ex FS properties : http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...l#post26600688
San Clemente Venice was never seriously considered, as Four Seasons thought it was too short a season to make money. It also did not have sufficient suites, and because it is a historic building, rooms could not be knocked together to make more suites. This was when Chris Norton was still President of FS.
Aug 7, 2017, 11:13 am
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I heard that because the Biarritz property is owned by the city, the owners could not justify the spend required by Four Seasons, which is why the project is not going ahead.
San Clemente Venice was never seriously considered, as Four Seasons thought it was too short a season to make money. It also did not have sufficient suites, and because it is a historic building, rooms could not be knocked together to make more suites. This was when Chris Norton was still President of FS.
San Clemente Venice was never seriously considered, as Four Seasons thought it was too short a season to make money. It also did not have sufficient suites, and because it is a historic building, rooms could not be knocked together to make more suites. This was when Chris Norton was still President of FS.
Aug 8, 2017, 8:17 am
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Aug 16, 2017, 5:43 am
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Refurb at Four Seasons Hotel Cairo at The First Residence
Please see:
http://www.hoteliermiddleeast.com/31...rst-residence/
Cheers & Safe Travels. ^
The 262-key property has already completed five of its 20 floors, and it remains fully operational with the project due to be completed in early 2018.
Completed enhancements include the expansion of the lobby area with the addition of a second reception desk area to enhance the hotel’s check in and concierge experience.
"As the first Four Seasons hotel in the Middle East, we are proud to be able to give all our rooms and suites, the largest of their kind in the city of Cairo, a newly revamped luxury look and feel," said the hotel's general manager Mahmoud ElKeiy, in a statement.
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http://www.hoteliermiddleeast.com/31...rst-residence/
Cheers & Safe Travels. ^
Aug 21, 2017, 10:46 pm
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fourseasons.com/nevis/offers/live-large-villa-experience-40-off
through 2017 (and 2018?) FS site never shows dates anymore
by beach >
fsrenevis.com/nevis-real-estate/luxury-villas-on-pinneys-beach
fsrenevis.com/wp-content/uploads/2015-FS-Resort-Estates.pdf
caribbeanvillas.fourseasons.com/content/dam/fourseasons_residences/pdfs/NEV/NEP-villa-fact-sheet-june-2017.pdf
$2820 4BR - 2001
$2520 3BR - 2002 2003 2004
attached image shows location
stewarts estates
$717 1BR
$1479(?) 2BR >
caribbeanvillas.fourseasons.com/nevis_villas/belmont_and_stewarts/two_bedroom_stewarts_residence_villa_with_pool/villa_1728/
$1920 4BR - seems still problematic category as it lists 1 new and 1 old
$1800(?) 5BR
caribbeanvillas.fourseasons.com
shows each individual villa, by category
some less common logistics options >
flytradewind.com/tradewind-shuttle/caribbean
stkittstourism.kn/explore-st-kitts-yu-lounge.php
st kitts AA MIA daily, JFK weekly, CLT weekly nov/dec
BA connects from antigua twice a week through oct
i also see above via villa agencies, and rentals (not above)
private rentals of FS marrakech residences >
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...l#post28594235
have also seen rentals at the FS in egypt
through 2017 (and 2018?) FS site never shows dates anymore
by beach >
fsrenevis.com/nevis-real-estate/luxury-villas-on-pinneys-beach
fsrenevis.com/wp-content/uploads/2015-FS-Resort-Estates.pdf
caribbeanvillas.fourseasons.com/content/dam/fourseasons_residences/pdfs/NEV/NEP-villa-fact-sheet-june-2017.pdf
$2820 4BR - 2001
$2520 3BR - 2002 2003 2004
attached image shows location
stewarts estates
$717 1BR
$1479(?) 2BR >
caribbeanvillas.fourseasons.com/nevis_villas/belmont_and_stewarts/two_bedroom_stewarts_residence_villa_with_pool/villa_1728/
$1920 4BR - seems still problematic category as it lists 1 new and 1 old
$1800(?) 5BR
caribbeanvillas.fourseasons.com
shows each individual villa, by category
some less common logistics options >
flytradewind.com/tradewind-shuttle/caribbean
stkittstourism.kn/explore-st-kitts-yu-lounge.php
st kitts AA MIA daily, JFK weekly, CLT weekly nov/dec
BA connects from antigua twice a week through oct
i also see above via villa agencies, and rentals (not above)
private rentals of FS marrakech residences >
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...l#post28594235
have also seen rentals at the FS in egypt
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Aug 25, 2017, 6:48 pm
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Four Seasons Iguazu
So per this post and this article , the new owners, Albwardy Investments, intend to renovate the Sheraton Iguazu and convert it to a FS. I've been to this Sheraton... if the intention is to create a FS then the first thing they need to start with is a wrecking ball.... nonetheless, apparently the same owner does own the FS BA so maybe there is some credence to the story....
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