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Old Jun 28, 2016, 1:03 am
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Lufthansa or Turkish? [LHR-TBS]

Hello all,

I need to plan for a regular series of trips over the next few years from LHR to Tbilisi. I can either travel Lufthansa via Munich or Turkish via Istanbul. Flight schedules are convenient on both airlines.

If you had to decide one airline/transit airport to commit to, would you choose LH/MUN or TA/IST?

Would appreciate all feedback, good and bad.
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Old Jun 28, 2016, 1:35 am
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Having faced the same choice on regular flights to IST, Turkish wins on most metrics (e.g. better food & drinks) but in the end after a few flights on TK I went back to LH where I just felt more comfortable.

My advice: try both. However from LHR, TK is often flying widebodies which I think would offer a more comfortable flight than being crammed in A320 or B737's - so I would go with these as my first choice.
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Old Jun 28, 2016, 1:58 am
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Which class of travel? If Business TK (not TA btw) is definitely better. MUC (not MUN) is a very good airport for transfers. In case of IRROPS I expect LH will handle things far better than TK.
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Old Jun 28, 2016, 2:40 am
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Anything to avoid transferring in IST.

Anything.
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Old Jun 28, 2016, 4:03 am
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I would transfer any in MUC any day over IST (at least until the new airport is open). On my last couple of flights MUC-IST and MUC-SAW I had really horrible seat pitch so I am trying to avoid TK (I am 6'4"). It has been really painful and a better meal and the CIP lounge cannot make up for the lack of space. Travelling in Business Class might lead to a different answer, but in the back of the bus TK is a pain.

I even read a TR somewhere (not on FT) where someone was traveling CGN TK IST TK NRT and that person said that the seat pitch on the 32x CGN-IST was better than on the longhaul. So much for LON-IST being operated by widebodies.
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Old Jun 28, 2016, 4:16 am
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You don't say which FF program you belong too. As you posted in this forum then I would assume it is miles&more.

But then be aware, that you will get reduced number of status miles (25%) for all TK flights with M&M. If you are doing a lot of flights, this adds up!

See here: http://www.miles-and-more.com/online...l=en&cid=18002


Otherwise, I would choose MUC over FRA as a transfer airport. But on TK you will get hot food, and much better food, and a good chance of IFE.
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Old Jun 28, 2016, 4:37 am
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I am not a current member of any FF program - that's the point of this thread. I am trying to figure out whether to commit the next couple of years travel to TK or LH.
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Old Jun 28, 2016, 4:40 am
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I would go for LH if in Eco, due to nicer connection in MUC, but for TK if in business, due to better seat (real business with some likelihood) and great food.
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Old Jun 28, 2016, 4:48 am
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MUC-TBS is operated with regular A320 series aircraft, so 3+h of misery. TK uses better aircraft LHR-IST, but it takes longer to get to TBS (7h55m instead of 6h40). Connecting with 60-70 min in IST is doable, but will clear your coronaries. TK flies 6 times a week to TBS, LH only 3 or 4 times.


Code:
** AMADEUS TIMETABLE - TN ** TBS TBILISI.GE                    28JUN16 05JUL16  
 1   TK1990  6    LHR 2 IST I  1405    2005   0 CONNECT IST     32B             
     TK 378  6    IST I TBS    2115    0030+1 0 02JUL16 02JUL16 321  7:25       
 2   TK1990  1    LHR 2 IST I  1405    2005   0 CONNECT IST     321             
     TK 378  1    IST I TBS    2115    0030+1 0 04JUL16 04JUL16 32B  7:25       
 3   TK1972  124  LHR 2 IST I  1800    2350   0 CONNECT IST     332             
     TK 386  124  IST I TBS    0140+1  0455+1 0 28JUN16 04JUL16 321  7:55       
 4   TK1972  5    LHR 2 IST I  1800    2350   0 CONNECT IST     333             
     TK 386  5    IST I TBS    0140+1  0455+1 0 01JUL16 01JUL16 321  7:55       
 5   TK1972  3    LHR 2 IST I  1800    2350   0 CONNECT IST     332             
     TK 386  3    IST I TBS    0140+1  0455+1 0 29JUN16 29JUN16 32S  7:55       
 6   TK1972  26   LHR 2 IST I  1800    2350   0 CONNECT IST     332             
     TK 386  26   IST I TBS    0140+1  0455+1 0 02JUL16 05JUL16 32B  7:55       
>tnlontbs/alh
TNLONTBS/ALH                                                                    
** AMADEUS TIMETABLE - TN ** TBS TBILISI.GE                    28JUN16 05JUL16  
 1CL*LH2479  4    LHR 2 MUC 2  1750    2035   0 CONNECT MUC     E95             
     LH2556  4    MUC 2 TBS    2145    0330+1 0 30JUN16 30JUN16 319  6:40       
 2   LH2479  2    LHR 2 MUC 2  1750    2035   0 CONNECT MUC     32A             
     LH2556  2    MUC 2 TBS    2145    0330+1 0 05JUL16 05JUL16 319  6:40       
 3   LH2479  5    LHR 2 MUC 2  1750    2035   0 CONNECT MUC     320             
     LH2556  5    MUC 2 TBS    2145    0330+1 0 01JUL16 01JUL16 321  6:40       
 4   LH2479  2    LHR 2 MUC 2  1750    2035   0 CONNECT MUC     321             
     LH2556  2    MUC 2 TBS    2145    0330+1 0 28JUN16 28JUN16 319  6:40       
 5   LH2479  3    LHR 2 MUC 2  1750    2035   0 CONNECT MUC     320             
     LH2556  3    MUC 2 TBS    2145    0330+1 0 29JUN16 29JUN16 320  6:40       
 6   LH2479  6    LHR 2 MUC 2  1750    2035   0 CONNECT MUC     319             
     LH2556  6    MUC 2 TBS    2150    0335+1 0 04JUN16 16JUL16 320  6:45       
>
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Old Jun 28, 2016, 4:17 pm
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Originally Posted by MacPie
I am not a current member of any FF program - that's the point of this thread. I am trying to figure out whether to commit the next couple of years travel to TK or LH.
Why is that dependent on the FF program? Especially if flying in economy you'll be better of with almost anything except M&M anyway (unless you want to waste your miles on worldshop).

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Old Jun 29, 2016, 12:31 am
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Why is that dependent on the FF program? Especially if flying in economy you'll be better of with almost anything except M&M anyway (unless you want to waste your miles on worldshop).

HTB.
My decision won't be based on the FF program, but once I decide to go either TK or LH, I will basically be committed to that airline and therefore their FF program. Hopefully the travel will be business class, which makes the FF program a moot point.
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Old Jun 29, 2016, 1:23 am
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Originally Posted by MacPie
My decision won't be based on the FF program, but once I decide to go either TK or LH, I will basically be committed to that airline and therefore their FF program. Hopefully the travel will be business class, which makes the FF program a moot point.
But the FF and the airline don't have to be the same

Both are *A, so both earn miles on each other's FF programs. However, you'll need to look carefully at the earning rates - and thresholds for status, if you're after that more than the mileage redemption as I suspect.

http://www.turkishairlines.com/en-in...able-lufthansa

http://www.miles-and-more.com/online...l=en&cid=18003
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Old Jul 1, 2016, 11:30 pm
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Originally Posted by MacPie
Hello all,
I need to plan for a regular series of trips over the next few years from LHR to Tbilisi. I can either travel Lufthansa via Munich or Turkish via Istanbul. Flight schedules are convenient on both airlines.
If you had to decide one airline/transit airport to commit to, would you choose LH/MUN or TA/IST?
Would appreciate all feedback, good and bad.
In light of the recent developements and attacks in Turkey I would never ever use any Turkish airport for transfer if I can avoid it. Besides, as already mentioned, in case of IRREG you are probably better handled by LH than TK.
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Old Jul 2, 2016, 9:40 am
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This thread was cross-posted here and in the M&M forum. Cross-posting is not allowed as per the FT rules. Therefore, this thread will be closed. If you would like to contribute to the discussions please do so in the TK thread.

Have a nice day
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