Lufthansa 1 + 1 = 2 or maybe 3?
Dec 19, 2014, 1:29 am
#1
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Lufthansa 1 + 1 = 2 or maybe 3?
Just an observation.
I need to fly a round trip JFK to LEJ (Leipzig, Germany) on 3/30/2015 and return on 4/22/2015. There are no direct flights from JFK to LEJ. Flights go through FRA. I want the JFK-FRA leg to be in the business cabin and and the second leg from FRA to LEJ in coach both ways.
If I book online using the LH site or Vayama.com site one round trip JFK-LEJ costs $4,300 where the long leg is in business the short leg in coach.
If I book two separate trips, the long leg in business costs $2,973 and short leg in coach costs $164, total $3,137, over $1,000 less then the first option.
one plus one equals three!!
I need to fly a round trip JFK to LEJ (Leipzig, Germany) on 3/30/2015 and return on 4/22/2015. There are no direct flights from JFK to LEJ. Flights go through FRA. I want the JFK-FRA leg to be in the business cabin and and the second leg from FRA to LEJ in coach both ways.
If I book online using the LH site or Vayama.com site one round trip JFK-LEJ costs $4,300 where the long leg is in business the short leg in coach.
If I book two separate trips, the long leg in business costs $2,973 and short leg in coach costs $164, total $3,137, over $1,000 less then the first option.
one plus one equals three!!
Dec 19, 2014, 12:12 pm
#5
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All in P:
Interesting fares offered on this route, I like the N (premium eco) on the night fligt, S (regular eco) on the day flight:
Pure N fare:
Just JFK-FRA in P:
Interesting even though LH 401 and 405 are wide open, the LEJ feeder is only available in K&L when MSC applies with the JFK flight. If you delink the segments to get a cheaper feeder in Y the LH 400 feeder is only available in V so you have to fly the later 404 in L.
Which costs 164EUR. But it can only be done in one PNR with two tickets if you use a TA
Code:
LAST TKT DTE 22DEC14 - SEE ADV PURCHASE
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AL FLGT BK T DATE TIME FARE BASIS NVB NVA BG
NYC
XFRA LH 405 P P 30MAR 2155 P1NC90E 30MAR30MAR 2P
LEJ LH 158 P P 31MAR 1325 P1NC90E 31MAR31MAR 2P
XFRA LH 157 P P 22APR 0605 P1NC90E 22APR22APR 2P
NYC LH 400 P P 22APR 1050 P1NC90E 22APR22APR 2P
USD 3994.00 30MAR15NYC LH X/FRA LH LEJ1997.00LH X/FRA
LH NYC1997.00NUC3994.00END ROE1.000000
USD 856.00YQ XT USD 17.50US USD 17.50US USD 5.00XA USD
USD 5.50YC 7.00XY USD 5.60AY USD 52.46OY USD 26.16DE
USD 205.11XT USD 26.36RA USD 43.03RD USD 4.50XF JFK4.50
USD 5060.61
BG CXR: LH
PRICED WITH VALIDATING CARRIER LH - REPRICE IF DIFFERENT VC
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Code:
* FARE BASIS * DISC * PSGR * FARE<USD> * MSG *T
01 P8NC50E * * P1 * 5760.61 * *Y
02 P1NC90E * * P1 * 5060.61 * *Y
03 B2E * * P1 * 4684.61 * *Y
04 PXRC3N+P1* * * P1 * 4793.61 * *Y
05 B1FFE+E00* * * P1 * 4284.61 * *Y
06 PXRC3N+Y77 * * P1 * 4526.61 * *Y
07 E00FFE * * P1 * 4070.61 * *Y
08 KKXNC3N+Y* * * P1 * 2038.61 * *Y
09 NKX46NCE+* * * P1 * 1596.61 * *Y
10 QKX36RCE+* * * P1 * 1536.61 * *Y
11 SKX47NCE * * P1 * 1376.61 * *Y
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>fqq9
FQQ9
09 NKX46NCE+* * * P1 * 1596.61 *RB *Y
REBOOK TO CHANGE BOOKING CLASS AS SPECIFIED
LAST TKT DTE 22DEC14 - SEE ADV PURCHASE
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AL FLGT BK T DATE TIME FARE BASIS NVB NVA BG
NYC
XFRA LH 405 N *N 30MAR 2155 NKX46NCE 30MAR30MAR 2P
LEJ LH 158 Y *Y 31MAR 1325 NKX46NCE 31MAR31MAR 2P
XFRA LH 157 S *S 22APR 0605 SKX47NCE 22APR22APR 1P
NYC LH 400 S *S 22APR 1050 SKX47NCE 22APR22APR 1P
USD 870.00 30MAR15NYC LH X/FRA LH LEJ545.00LH X/FRA
LH NYC325.00NUC870.00END ROE1.000000
USD 516.00YQ XT USD 17.50US USD 17.50US USD 5.00XA USD
USD 5.50YC 7.00XY USD 5.60AY USD 52.46OY USD 26.16DE
USD 205.11XT USD 26.36RA USD 43.03RD USD 4.50XF JFK4.50
USD 1596.61
BG CXR: LH
PRICED WITH VALIDATING CARRIER LH - REPRICE IF DIFFERENT VC
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Code:
13 NKX46NCE * * 1 * 1816.61 *RB *Y
LAST TKT DTE 22DEC14 - SEE ADV PURCHASE
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AL FLGT BK T DATE TIME FARE BASIS NVB NVA BG
NYC
XFRA LH 405 N N 30MAR 2155 NKX46NCE 30MAR30MAR 2P
LEJ LH 158 Y Y 31MAR 1325 NKX46NCE 31MAR31MAR 2P
XFRA LH 157 Y Y 22APR 0605 NKX46NCE 22APR22APR 2P
NYC LH 400 N N 22APR 1050 NKX46NCE 22APR22APR 2P
USD 1090.00 30MAR15NYC LH X/FRA LH LEJ545.00LH X/FRA
LH NYC545.00NUC1090.00END ROE1.000000
USD 516.00YQ XT USD 17.50US USD 17.50US USD 5.00XA USD
USD 5.50YC 7.00XY USD 5.60AY USD 52.46OY USD 26.16DE
USD 205.11XT USD 26.36RA USD 43.03RD USD 4.50XF JFK4.50
USD 1816.61
BG CXR: LH
PRICED WITH VALIDATING CARRIER LH - REPRICE IF DIFFERENT VC
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Code:
1 LH 405 P 30MAR 1 JFKFRA HK1 1 2155 1135+1 74H E 0 M
SEC FLT PSGR DATA REQUIRED 72 HBD SSR DOCS
US LAW SEE GGAIRLH PNR ACCESS OR NEWS KEYWORDS
ESTA REQUIRED FOR VISA WAIVER NATIONALS
SEE RTSVC
2 LH 400 P 22APR 3 FRAJFK HK1 1 1050 1325 388 E 0 M
SEC FLT PSGR DATA REQUIRED 72 HBD SSR DOCS
US LAW SEE GGAIRLH PNR ACCESS OR NEWS KEYWORDS
ESTA REQUIRED FOR VISA WAIVER NATIONALS
SEE RTSVC
>fxa/r,nyc
FXA/R,NYC
* FARE BASIS * DISC * PSGR * FARE<USD> * MSG *T
01 P8NC50E * * P1 * 5716.88 * *Y
02 GR1+B2E * * P1 * 5046.88 * *Y
03 YR1+B2E * * P1 * 4922.88 * *Y
04 KKXNC3N+Q* * * P1 * 5050.88 * *Y
05 B2E * * P1 * 4640.88 * *Y
06 P1NC90E+P* * * P1 * 3994.88 * *Y
07 B1FFE+PXR* * * P1 * 3713.88 * *Y
08 E00FFE+PX* * * P1 * 3549.88 * *Y
09 PXRC3N * * P1 * 2972.88 * *Y
10 NKX46NCE+* * * P1 * 1393.88 * *Y
11 QKX36RCE+* * * P1 * 1293.88 * *Y
12 SKX47NCE+* * * P1 * 1133.88 * *Y
13 KKXNC3N * * P1 * 934.88 * *Y
*2*FARE VALID FOR E TICKET ONLY
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Which costs 164EUR. But it can only be done in one PNR with two tickets if you use a TA
Code:
FQQ1
01 LNC201D1 * * P1 * 164.47 * *Y
NO REBOOKING REQUIRED FOR LOWEST AVAILABLE FARE
LAST TKT DTE 20DEC14 - SEE ADV PURCHASE
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AL FLGT BK T DATE TIME FARE BASIS NVB NVA BG
FRA
LEJ LH 158 L L 31MAR 1325 LNC201D1 31MAR31MAR 1P
FRA LH 161 L L 22APR 1045 LNC201D1 22APR22APR 1P
EUR 46.00 31MAR15FRA LH LEJ23.00LH FRA23.00EUR46.00
END
EUR 38.00YQ XT EUR 15.22DE EUR 47.39RD
EUR 17.86OY
EUR 62.61XT
EUR 164.47
CARD PAYMENT FEES UP TO EUR 5.00 MAY APPLY
BG CXR: LH/LH
PRICED WITH VALIDATING CARRIER LH - REPRICE IF DIFFERENT VC
TICKETS ARE NON-REFUNDABLE
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Dec 20, 2014, 8:47 pm
#6
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That's because the JFK-any_big_city routes are very competitive whereas nothing flies to Leipzig. It's a super tiny airport.
I'd strongly recommend driving from FRA. One of the nicest Autobahn systems on the planet and you can give a lot of lead foot. Plus you don't depend on the spares airline schedule.
I'd strongly recommend driving from FRA. One of the nicest Autobahn systems on the planet and you can give a lot of lead foot. Plus you don't depend on the spares airline schedule.
Dec 21, 2014, 3:58 pm
#8
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: OSL
Programs: SK Diamond, LH SEN, KL Ivory, AY Basic, OZ silver
Posts: 1,103
Well, if you like visiting relatively 'small' airports (still well over 2 million visitors each year) and if connection time would be sufficient to clear customs and immigration and to check your stuff in again, then why not cut the booking in two pieces? Train ain't exactly cheap in Germany, neither is car rental. And Germany from above is actually quite a nice view.
I totally agree with you about the strange pricing policy: I would expect two separate tickets to be more expensive than one containing all.
I totally agree with you about the strange pricing policy: I would expect two separate tickets to be more expensive than one containing all.
Dec 22, 2014, 10:59 am
#9
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Location: Germany
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