deelmakur

This is approaching a dead horse, and I apologize, but I did want to remind JetBlueFA that B6 is the only carrier to roll out the program in pieces, and they are late to the party. It isn't like it was surprise. I am aware that the original source of members came from airline FF elite levels, and Mosaic is fairly recent, so it may have seemed less important, but now TSA is proactively urging people to join the screening program.

CDKing

Hawaiian airlines does not include an elite opt-in only KTN.

deelmakur

The KTN route, via Global Entry, and the like, is the way to go, although it can be tough to schedule the personal interview at some stations. Like HAL, B6 may have customers who spend seasonally (and significantly), don't earn big miles, but already have the required clearance for TSA Pre. They may have underestimated that, when calculating the possible negative PR consequences of a partial rollout. I'm going to guess, HAL, with it's long history of interline ticketing, has an IT system which is compatible with other carriers, and thus TSE PreCheck compliant. I haven't looked that closely, but, while Hawaiian uses the B6 terminal for its JFK-HNL, service, and I think there is some linkage with TrueBlue, it is not integrated to the level of codeshare ability. Ditto Lufthansa, which, at one time had a 24% equity ownership in JetBlue. That points to a proprietary IT system as the culprit. They will get there.

sbm12

You know that JetBlue uses SABRE, right? That's hardly some proprietary back-end system that no one else uses.

I'm sure that there are IT reasons why they did it the way they did, but it isn't like they are using some home-grown PSS cobbled together by a bunch of guys in the basement.

ETA: Also, B6 does have codeshare operations with several other airlines including a two-way codeshare with Emirates. There are lots of things which go in to building a codeshare relationship, often more significant than the computer systems.

Dodge DeBoulet

From this thread I've learned that my Pre-Check status through UA will probably not carry over to B6, so I'm considering going the Global Entry route.

I'm currently at JFK twice a week, and on Thursdays, I have plenty of time to kill. The hours at the JFK Global Entry office seem to be fairly accommodating, running from 7am to 8pm 7 days a week.

Can anyone here share a recent experience with the wait time between application in GOES and being contacted for an appointment, as well as how far out the appointment was booked from the contact date? I'm not sure how much longer my current engagement will run, and may need to consider the Boston office if the wait is excessive.

deelmakur

SBM12, I am aware they use Sabre. Probably a poor choice of descriptive adjectives. I was referring to Navitaire, the very basic res systerm B6 used, before going to Sabre. That said, Sabre has many options within it, enabling customization. I am at a loss to understand why the CRS at JetBlue couldn't have been adapted for TSA Pre more quickly.

Note to Dodge deBoulet. You apply online for Global Entry. If approved, you need a personal interview, where they will also photograph and fingerprint you. You make the appointment online. They list the locations, times, and availabilities. JFK tends to have lots of openings. When I got mine, I was able to make an appointment the next day. I had originally looked at Ft. Lauderdale as an option, and the waiitng time was more than a month, due to limited facilities. Turned out the CBP office was in the Cruise Terminal at Port Everglades, not FLL.

Lurker1999

To those of you applying for Global Entry remember that you can schedule your interview at any enrollment site, not just the one closest to you. Also appointments open up very frequently so if your local enrollment center is booked out for months you can sometimes get lucky and get an appointment much sooner if you check the GOES website several times a day.

cleanfloor

fwiw, i just showed up to the enrollment sites three different times on random connections and they took me the third time. i pretended i didnt know how i was supposed to do it and they said "oh we can just do it now". YMMV.

bennos

VX started with KTN before inviting in elites.

deelmakur

But VX PreCheck wasn't restricted to mobile only. Actually, I discussed this with an IT friend of mine, who told me, to accomodate PreCheck, Sabre requires a rework of what is called PECTAB. This is apparently the protocol needed to integrate boarding passes with the TSA program. On the Sabre side, alone, that's probably several hundred hours of time. One person indicated they thought JetBlue, in addition to having a smaller IT staff, may also have different types of printers at various stations. If that were the case, the testing phase would take longer. Why others had less trouble doing it, is a mystery to me. B6 is usually out front on things to make travel easier.

sbm12

How is it that you can write a post providing several reasons why it might be the case and then still conclude that it is a mystery how they got there??

sbm12

Worked without the middle name in that my mobile BP had the PreCheck icon. Alas, at JFK the TSA is only staffing PreCheck 6-9am (or 6-10; I got conflicting answers) so I had the regular wait/check in the evening.

deelmakur

What's your point? I was being polite. It's fairly obvious they were late, and didn't see it as a priority. That better?

LoganFlyer

Why is this not available in PHL? There's already a PreCheck lane in the D/E checkpoint that leads straight to the B6 gate.

ellinj

Probably because PHL isn't an airport that supports mobile boarding passes. As I recall, the initial rollout does not include paper passes.