Which is preferred: Tokyo --> Osaka/Kyoto or Osaka/Kyoto --> Tokyo?
#46
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Your best bet might be to check for "triple" rooms and ask about a roll-in bed for the littlest child. Triples are relatively common but rooms with beds for four are very uncommon.
Another choice, if you don't mind sleeping on futons on the floor, is look for "Japanese-style" rooms. Those can be set up for as many as needed.
Another choice, if you don't mind sleeping on futons on the floor, is look for "Japanese-style" rooms. Those can be set up for as many as needed.
As for triples, we'd be fine with just a triple, but there aren't a lot of those in Tokyo either. However, I know there was another thread about this, but does front desk even check how many people you have? We're ok with just the 3 beds. We're roughly the same size as Japanese people. At home, we can all squeeze into our king. I checked with the little one and we can comfortably share her twin together. I don't know what you guys think about just squeezing into a regular room with either a king or two twin beds (is that what they have?) and just not mentioning the kids.
#47
Join Date: Feb 2013
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Kids will be 8 and 10 at that time. If the McD's has Japan only options, I might be willing to try it. We try to do our best to avoid American food when traveling. Otherwise, why travel? That said, one person in the other family we're with only eats chicken but I figure he can figure it out.
I don't plan on cooking so a hotel could be nice. I only checked Tokyo for 4 person hotel rooms so it's good to hear Kyoto might have hotel options. I did check the Hyatt in Osaka and Kyoto, but they seem to be 1 bed options only.
I don't plan on cooking so a hotel could be nice. I only checked Tokyo for 4 person hotel rooms so it's good to hear Kyoto might have hotel options. I did check the Hyatt in Osaka and Kyoto, but they seem to be 1 bed options only.
Anyways, I don't think you'll have any issues finding a hotel room in Kyoto that your family can fit into. Rather, I think the biggest potential problem with that type of setup might be booking it correctly using English-language booking engine. I use Rakuten Travel (japanese) and I'm able to specify all my requirements in terms of how many kid will have her own bed and how many will share, etc. If you run into difficulties, you can also contact the hotel and book directly with them.
#48
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If your kids are only 8 and 10, then you should have plenty of options in Kyoto. Are you willing to have a setup where the 4 of you share 3 twin-size beds stuck together in parallel? With my family, we often stay in hollywood-twin hotel rooms with two x 110cm-wide beds stuck together... that is spacious enough for our family of 4 to share. I know Vessel Camapana can squeeze in up to 4 beds into their larger room.
Tokyo sounds like AirBnB is our best bet though, right? Or are there 3 bed options if I can just figure out the search engines?
#49
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Yes, they can even be separated. I think we could get away with two twin beds, although that wouldn't be ideal. I'll have to look into what a hollywood-twin is.
Tokyo sounds like AirBnB is our best bet though, right? Or are there 3 bed options if I can just figure out the search engines?
Tokyo sounds like AirBnB is our best bet though, right? Or are there 3 bed options if I can just figure out the search engines?
You can certainly look into airbnb. But if you prefer hotels with 3 beds, you will still have many options even in Tokyo. Plugging in a random day this October via Rakuten (Jpn site), I see many hotels for <30,000yen per night. Examples include Mitsui Garden Shiodome (26m2, 120cm x3 for 29,500y), Villa Fontaine Shiodome (30m2, 120cm x2 + sofabed for 28,900y), Hotel Monterey Hanzomon (20m2, 110cm x2 + 97cm x1 for 28,300y). I'm not sure what the English-language booking engines look like. In Jpn, I only book through Japanese sites for non-award bookings. But if you don't get the search results you want, then perhaps the simplest thing is to inquire with one of the above hotels directly. Tell them you have 2adults and 2kids, but you want a twin room with an extra bed (or room with 3 beds) and 1 child sharing bed.
#50
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Two ways:
1) Traditional-style Japanese hotels are called "ryokan" (usually high-end) or "minshuku" (like a B&B, only they serve dinner as well as breakfast).
However, a long-term stay might be problematic for families with children, especially active children who are easily bored.
2) Some hotels that are basically Western-style, especially lower-priced hotels, although not the chains, have a few Japanese-style rooms.
1) Traditional-style Japanese hotels are called "ryokan" (usually high-end) or "minshuku" (like a B&B, only they serve dinner as well as breakfast).
However, a long-term stay might be problematic for families with children, especially active children who are easily bored.
2) Some hotels that are basically Western-style, especially lower-priced hotels, although not the chains, have a few Japanese-style rooms.
#52
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This comment is not particular to Japan, but I never stay at airport hotels unless I'm in transit and leaving the next day.
Here, I would just take the train for 90 minutes from the airport to Kyoto and then not have to worry about packing up and checking out/in the next day and going to a train station and basically losing a half day changing hotels.
I don't have kids though.
Here, I would just take the train for 90 minutes from the airport to Kyoto and then not have to worry about packing up and checking out/in the next day and going to a train station and basically losing a half day changing hotels.
I don't have kids though.
#53
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We are going to Japan with two kids (9 and 5) in about a month. I found that many of the hotel websites did not let us book four into a room, though there were some that did (e.g., Hyatt). However, when we sent an e-mail to the hotel (or our TA did so), most of the hotels responded that four to a room would be fine, even if the website did not allow it.
Agreed that finding bedding for four is difficult. Many hotels offer either one king or two "twin" beds (which seem to be bigger than a U.S. twin, but still not particularly large). If you have two small children, you may be able to stuff one adult and one child in each twin. If you want a rollaway, the hotels generally charge, and the price is steep by U.S. standards -- in the range of $100-$130 per night. Some hotels (e.g., FS) have rooms with two queens.
Agreed that finding bedding for four is difficult. Many hotels offer either one king or two "twin" beds (which seem to be bigger than a U.S. twin, but still not particularly large). If you have two small children, you may be able to stuff one adult and one child in each twin. If you want a rollaway, the hotels generally charge, and the price is steep by U.S. standards -- in the range of $100-$130 per night. Some hotels (e.g., FS) have rooms with two queens.
#54
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We are going to Japan with two kids (9 and 5) in about a month. I found that many of the hotel websites did not let us book four into a room, though there were some that did (e.g., Hyatt). However, when we sent an e-mail to the hotel (or our TA did so), most of the hotels responded that four to a room would be fine, even if the website did not allow it.
Agreed that finding bedding for four is difficult. Many hotels offer either one king or two "twin" beds (which seem to be bigger than a U.S. twin, but still not particularly large). If you have two small children, you may be able to stuff one adult and one child in each twin. If you want a rollaway, the hotels generally charge, and the price is steep by U.S. standards -- in the range of $100-$130 per night. Some hotels (e.g., FS) have rooms with two queens.
Agreed that finding bedding for four is difficult. Many hotels offer either one king or two "twin" beds (which seem to be bigger than a U.S. twin, but still not particularly large). If you have two small children, you may be able to stuff one adult and one child in each twin. If you want a rollaway, the hotels generally charge, and the price is steep by U.S. standards -- in the range of $100-$130 per night. Some hotels (e.g., FS) have rooms with two queens.
#55
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