Fog and flights in late Jan out of DEL
Jan 4, 2017, 2:12 am
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Currently booked on a 3h10m connection in DEL in late January:
I need to be at work in MUC the day of arrival at 9am, so absolutely have to get that MUC flight. Previously when fog was delaying everything I used to monitor the inbound flights DEL-CCU and once showed up earlier to be put on the earlier delayed rotation (AI701).
What do that wise (wo)men of the IbA forum suggest? Go with this option or rebook via BOM?
Problem there is that its the only flight AI has in the evening, operated by an A319 that comes in from BOM in the morning and that does a two domestic rotations before going back to its BOM base for the night. So time is not really of the essence there and the punctuality is accordingly bad as it accumulates delays. (departs about 30-40 late, arrives 20-30 mins late) OTOH the BOM option has a 5hr transit window.... really torn here.
Code:
** AMADEUS TIMETABLE - TN ** MUC MUNICH.DE 29JAN17 05FEB17
1 AI 023 D CCU 2 DEL 3 2015 2240 0 CONNECT DEL 321
LH:AI8763 D DEL 3 MUC 2 0150+1 0555+1 0 02JAN17 09FEB17 333 14:10
2 AI 023 D CCU 2 DEL 3 2015 2240 0 CONNECT DEL 321
LH 763 D DEL 3 MUC 2 0150+1 0555+1 0 05JAN17 09FEB17 333 14:10
Code:
** AMADEUS TIMETABLE - TN ** DEL DELHI.IN 29JAN17 05FEB17 1 AI 763 D CCU 2 DEL 3 0700 0910 0 05DEC16 321 2:10 2 AI 021 D CCU 2 DEL 3 1000 1215 0 04JAN17 788 2:15 3 AI 701 D CCU 2 DEL 3 1730 1950 0 01DEC16 788 2:20 4 AI 023 D CCU 2 DEL 3 2015 2240 0 03DEC16 321 2:25
Code:
** AMADEUS TIMETABLE - TN ** MUC MUNICH.DE 29JAN17 05FEB17
1 AI 773 D CCU 2 BOM 2 1700 1945 0 CONNECT BOM 319
LH:AI8765 D BOM 2 MUC 2 0125+1 0550+1 0 02JAN17 24MAR17 333 17:20
2 AI 773 D CCU 2 BOM 2 1700 1945 0 CONNECT BOM 319
LH 765 D BOM 2 MUC 2 0125+1 0550+1 0 07JAN17 24MAR17 333 17:20
Jan 6, 2017, 2:45 am
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Jan 28, 2017, 1:29 am
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Moved my flight via BOM after reading that the fog will be worse this weekend. Now the local BOM FTer has to entertain me tonite.
Jan 28, 2017, 11:04 am
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Flew AI120 EDDF VIDP this morning. RVR 0.03 miles VV 0 ft. this was at 923 AM arrival. This was a ILS Cat III (b) landing on 11/29. Looking at the run way attached pic can see how difficult it was.... not sure if many domestic pilots are certified in that. Connecting flight was delayed 2 hours.... they were limiting departures to 12 per hour as taxi speed was reduced....
Jan 28, 2017, 2:09 pm
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Saddest thing is that these dense fogs are not purely natural occurrences, they are largely due to pollution. These fogs are what were called "pea soupers" in England in the 1950s, before they cleaned up the air. There is no will to do the same in India today, any more than there is any real effort (as opposed to bombastic talk) to clean up the Ganges.
Jan 29, 2017, 1:28 am
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As the country become more developed the pressure to clean up the air will increase. You gave the example of England... Beijing and other emerging cities have same issue.
Last Sunday I transited DEL and could see squat out the window. How the pilot managed to park the A380 I was on safely I don't know. The tail and Fwd cameras just showed smog and faint lights. I continued on a AI 788, and couldn't see the wingtip from my window, which indicates a visibilibility of maybe a 100ft? CatIIIb says all you need is 200ft. The 788 and other A32S of all airlines ahead of us managed nicely, albeit with very very slow taxi and lots of spacing. The fog is also very low, 2 seconds post take off we were out of it and I could see the DEL tower sticking out of it, so it must have been <50-60m tops.
Last Sunday I transited DEL and could see squat out the window. How the pilot managed to park the A380 I was on safely I don't know. The tail and Fwd cameras just showed smog and faint lights. I continued on a AI 788, and couldn't see the wingtip from my window, which indicates a visibilibility of maybe a 100ft? CatIIIb says all you need is 200ft. The 788 and other A32S of all airlines ahead of us managed nicely, albeit with very very slow taxi and lots of spacing. The fog is also very low, 2 seconds post take off we were out of it and I could see the DEL tower sticking out of it, so it must have been <50-60m tops.
Jan 30, 2017, 6:13 am
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As the country become more developed the pressure to clean up the air will increase. You gave the example of England... Beijing and other emerging cities have same issue.
Last Sunday I transited DEL and could see squat out the window. How the pilot managed to park the A380 I was on safely I don't know. The tail and Fwd cameras just showed smog and faint lights. I continued on a AI 788, and couldn't see the wingtip from my window, which indicates a visibilibility of maybe a 100ft? CatIIIb says all you need is 200ft. The 788 and other A32S of all airlines ahead of us managed nicely, albeit with very very slow taxi and lots of spacing. The fog is also very low, 2 seconds post take off we were out of it and I could see the DEL tower sticking out of it, so it must have been <50-60m tops.
Last Sunday I transited DEL and could see squat out the window. How the pilot managed to park the A380 I was on safely I don't know. The tail and Fwd cameras just showed smog and faint lights. I continued on a AI 788, and couldn't see the wingtip from my window, which indicates a visibilibility of maybe a 100ft? CatIIIb says all you need is 200ft. The 788 and other A32S of all airlines ahead of us managed nicely, albeit with very very slow taxi and lots of spacing. The fog is also very low, 2 seconds post take off we were out of it and I could see the DEL tower sticking out of it, so it must have been <50-60m tops.
It was just not worth spending anymore days or nights in Delhi.
Jan 30, 2017, 8:07 am
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Probably had ground escort to their gate. The visibility and air quality is HORRIBLE. We flew in early morning, got our meetings done, had lunch at the Shangri-La italian restaurant, had the driver drop us off at the mall near the airport for a couple of hours and then had him drop us off back at the airport. Caught the MH flight at night back out to Kuala Lumpur late after spending 3 hours relaxing in the lounge.
It was just not worth spending anymore days or nights in Delhi.
It was just not worth spending anymore days or nights in Delhi.
my idea is if I spend say 5 years in DEL and still manage to live, even a gas chamber won't kill me