Feb 3, 2017, 4:10 pm
Last edit by: paul00
Official link showing the maximum number of points needed to redeem a standard room award after the changes: http://pointsandmoney.hilton.com/
How will standard room rewards be affected by the changes?
Will I earn bonus points on the cash portion of Points & Money bookings?
Although the HonorsRepresentative stated in Feb 2017 that 'you can rest assured about the value of your Points. As we make this transition on Standard Room Rewards, each hotel's maximum Points price is NOT increasing', in June 2017 the maximum number of points needed to redeem standard room rewards at four properties were raised. Furthermore, the HonorsRepresentative stated that:
List of properties which have seen increases in the maximum number of points needed to redeem standard room awards since the changes:
How will standard room rewards be affected by the changes?
Our Points prices will also become more flexible. When demand and room rates are lower, Points prices will flex and go lower than before. As we launch this new benefit, we’re also saying farewell to hotel categories - which will allow prices to go lower than the previous ranges. But you can rest assured about the value of your Points. As we make this transition on Standard Room Rewards, each hotel's maximum Points price is NOT increasing.
For example, today a Standard Room at Category 10 hotels maxes out at 95,000 Points per night. Once the new Points & Money program launches, those hotels will continue to top out at 95,000 Points, and may sometimes be priced lower than the previous category range.
For example, today a Standard Room at Category 10 hotels maxes out at 95,000 Points per night. Once the new Points & Money program launches, those hotels will continue to top out at 95,000 Points, and may sometimes be priced lower than the previous category range.
If you book a Points & Money rate when the new functionality goes live later this month [Feb 2017], the money portion will qualify to earn Hilton Honors Base Points. You'll also qualify to earn Bonus Points through eligible promotions, including the 2K Every Day promotion (note: I posted this update in the promotion thread, as well).
Points & Money stays booked under the current system are subject to the current Terms & Conditions of the program - therefore, you would not be eligible to earn Points on the cash portion of the stay.
Points & Money stays booked under the current system are subject to the current Terms & Conditions of the program - therefore, you would not be eligible to earn Points on the cash portion of the stay.
- Hampton Inn closest to Universal Orlando, US: Cat 3 (max 20,000 points) to Cat 4 (max 30,000 points)
- DoubleTree by Hilton Hotel Hangzhou East, China: Cat 2 (max 10,000 points) to Cat 3 (max 20,000 points)
- DoubleTree by Hilton Hotel Jiaxing, China: Cat 1 (max 5,000 points) to Cat 2 (max 10,000 points)
- DoubleTree by Hilton Hotel Wuhu, China: Cat 1 (max 5,000 points) to Cat 2 (max 10,000 points)
- DoubleTree by Hilton Hotel Shenzhen Longhua, China: Cat 2 (max 10,000 points) to Cat 3 (max 20,000 points)
- Doubletree by Hilton Xiamen-Haicang, China: Cat 2 (max 10,000 points) to Cat 3 (max 20,000 points)
- Hilton Garden Inn Fuzhou Cangshan, China: Cat 1 (max 5,000 points) to Cat 2 (max 10,000 points)
- DoubleTree by Hilton Hotel Suzhou, China: Cat 2 (max 10,000 points) to Cat 3 (max 20,000 points)
- Hilton Garden Inn Ningbo, China: Cat 1 (max 5,000 points) to Cat 2 (max 10,000 points)
- Hampton Inn and Suites Chicago/Hoffman Estates, US: Cat 2 (max 10,000 points) to Cat 3 (max 20,000 points)
- Hampton Inn Lincoln, US: Cat 2 (max 10,000 points) to Cat 3 (max 20,000 points)
- Hampton Inn and Suites Las Vegas Airport, US: Cat 3 (max 20,000 points) to max 25,000 points
- DoubleTree by Hilton Ningbo Beilun, China: Cat 1 (max 5,000 points) to Cat 2 (max 10,000 points)
- Hilton Garden Inn Shenzhen Bao'an, China: Cat 1 (max 5,000 points) to Cat 2 (max 10,000 points)
- Hilton Garden Inn Dandong, China: Cat 1 (max 5,000 points) to Cat 2 (max 10,000 points)
- Hampton by Hilton Krakow, Poland, Cat 1 (max 5,000 points) to Cat 2 (max 10,000 points)
- Hampton Inn and Suites Oxford/Anniston, US: Cat 2 (max 10,000 points) to Cat 3 (max 20,000 points)
- Hilton Garden Inn Oxford/Anniston, US: Cat 2 (max 10,000 points) to Cat 3 (max 20,000 points)
- Hilton Kota Kinabalu, Malaysia: Cat 2 (max 10,000 points) to Cat 3 (max 20,000 points)
- Conrad Macao Cotai Central: Cat 5 (max 40,000 points) to Cat 6 (max 50,000 points)
- Hampton Inn LaGrange near Callaway Gardens, US: Cat 2 (max 10,000 points) to Cat 3 (max 20,000 points)
- Hampton Inn Cartersville, US: Cat 2 (max 10,000 points) to Cat 3 (max 20,000 points)
- Hampton Inn Fall River/Westport, US: Cat 2 (max 10,000 points) to Cat 3 (max 20,000 points)
- Hampton by Hilton Minsk City Centre, Belarus: Cat 1 (max 5,000 points) to Cat 2 (max 10,000 points)
- DoubleTree by Hilton Hotel Ningbo - Chunxiao, China: Cat 1 (max 5,000 points) to Cat 2 (max 10,000 points)
- Hilton Garden Inn Foshan, China: Cat 1 (max 5,000 points) to Cat 2 (max 10,000 points)
- Hilton Alexandria Corniche, Egypt: Cat 1 (max 5,000 points) to Cat 2 (max 10,000 points)
- Hilton Alexandria Green Plaza, Egypt: Cat 1 (max 5,000 points) to Cat 2 (max 10,000 points)
- DoubleTree by Hilton Melaka, Malaysia: Cat 1 (max 5,000 points) to Cat 2 (max 10,000 points)
- Hampton by Hilton Swinoujscie, Poland: Cat 2 (max 10,000 points) to max 15,000 points
- Hampton by Hilton Nizhny Novgorod, Russia: Cat 1 (max 5,000 points) to Cat 2 (max 10,000 points)
- Hampton by Hilton Samara, Russia: Cat 1 (max 5,000 points) to Cat 2 (max 10,000 points)
- Hilton Garden Inn Ulyanovsk, Russia: Cat 1 (max 5,000 points) to Cat 2 (max 10,000 points)
- Hilton Garden Inn Volgograd, Russia: Cat 1 (max 5,000 points) to Cat 2 (max 10,000 points)
- DoubleTree by Hilton Hotel Trabzon (previously Hilton Garden Inn Trabzon), Turkey: Cat 2 (max 10,000 points) to max 25,000 points
- Hilton Salalah Resort, Oman: Cat 1 (max 5,000 points) to Cat 2 (max 10,000 points)
Announcing Four New Hilton Honors Perks
Sep 8, 2017, 7:52 am
#406
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: On strike
Posts: 8,135
I do think it is regrettable that Hilton Honors will no longer announce changes to the maximum number of points needed for standard room awards. It's hard to see how Hilton Honors can claim that 'you can rest assured about the value of your Points' when changes can be made without any advance warning (or even any announcement at the change comes into effect).
The lesson here: if you have the points on hand, book what you want (assuming you know what/when that is) ASAP, and cancel later as needed. Sort of makes one wish Hilton would ease the pain by not deducting points until ~a week before the stay (which is one of the best features of the Marriott program).
Sep 14, 2017, 6:16 am
#408
Company Representative - Honors by Hilton
Original Poster
Join Date: Aug 2009
Programs: Hilton Honors
Posts: 1,516
Amazon Shop with Points
Hi all,
Before taking off, wanted to let you know that Amazon Shop with Points is expected to launch next week. I've asked for someone on the team to share an update on FT once this new benefit is officially live. Stay tuned!
Thanks!
Lauren
Before taking off, wanted to let you know that Amazon Shop with Points is expected to launch next week. I've asked for someone on the team to share an update on FT once this new benefit is officially live. Stay tuned!
Thanks!
Lauren
Sep 19, 2017, 7:06 am
#410
Company Representative - Honors by Hilton
Original Poster
Join Date: Aug 2009
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Posts: 1,516
Amazon Shop With Points Launch
Hi all,
Happy to announce that Amazon Shop with Points is officially here! This new benefit is free to use and available to all eligible Hilton Honors members. Members can complete a one-time link of their Hilton Honors account to their Amazon.com account and from there, choose the amount of Points they wish to use when checking out their purchase on Amazon.com.
More information can be found here.
Thanks!
The Hilton Honors Team
Happy to announce that Amazon Shop with Points is officially here! This new benefit is free to use and available to all eligible Hilton Honors members. Members can complete a one-time link of their Hilton Honors account to their Amazon.com account and from there, choose the amount of Points they wish to use when checking out their purchase on Amazon.com.
More information can be found here.
Thanks!
The Hilton Honors Team
Last edited by Hilton Honors Ambassador; Sep 19, 2017 at 8:43 am
Sep 19, 2017, 7:09 am
#411
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Cheshire
Programs: HH Diamond, IHG Diamond Am Elite, Best Western Gold, Marriott Bonvoy Gold, Radisson Rewards Gold
Posts: 1,712
Hi all,
Happy to announce that Amazon Shop with Points is officially here! This new benefit is free to use and available to all eligible Hilton Honors members. Members can complete a one-time link of their Hilton Honors account to their Amazon.com account and from there, choose the amount of Points they wish to use when checking out their purchase on Amazon.com.
More information can be found here.
Thanks!
The Hilton Honors Team
Happy to announce that Amazon Shop with Points is officially here! This new benefit is free to use and available to all eligible Hilton Honors members. Members can complete a one-time link of their Hilton Honors account to their Amazon.com account and from there, choose the amount of Points they wish to use when checking out their purchase on Amazon.com.
More information can be found here.
Thanks!
The Hilton Honors Team
How about amazon.co.uk etc?
Sep 29, 2017, 11:16 am
#413
Join Date: Jan 2017
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Oct 1, 2017, 10:40 pm
#415
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 812
Just added Hampton Inn and Suites Las Vegas Airport to the wiki (another stealth devaluation identified by Insideflyer.co.uk)
Nov 2, 2017, 11:39 am
#417
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2014
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I just want to comment on the SAD, SAD state of affairs that the value of HH points have become, now worth pretty much steadily around 0.3-0.4 cents per point, basically useless...They are even below the pathetic .5 cent/point valuation they used to have.
Nice perk, HH...
Nice perk, HH...
Last edited by nk15; Nov 2, 2017 at 1:29 pm
Nov 2, 2017, 11:43 am
#418
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Nov 2, 2017, 11:55 am
#419
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Location: MCO, YEG
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If you are using them at 0.3 to 0.4 cents per point, you are wasting your points. I have booked 3 hotels in Italy and Austria for this month, which is pretty much as off season as you can get and have gotten 0.59, 0.63 and 0.95 cents per point. Being able to use cash and points under the old system might have allowed me to leverage for higher values if it had been available, but I still would never use points for a stay that only got me 0.3 to 0.4 cents per point.
Nov 2, 2017, 1:29 pm
#420
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That's true, but still pathetic, it is .5 at best. I obviously don't use anything at .3 or .4, I pay cash, even .5 I avoid, I try for .6 or higher, but hard to find these days...