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Old Mar 12, 2015, 3:34 pm
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Background
From time to time, AY will make the Y traveller an offer to upgrade. This thread lists when, how and and how much the upgrade is.

Selection process is unknown, but it is likely that neither fare class on original ticket nor tier status of traveller is a selection criteria, at least not to travellers advantage. From the reports made so far, both travellers with and without FF# in the reservation have gotten offers.

Offers are likely made only when Y is oversold or nearly full. Some travellers have reported declining offer and being upgraded for free later ("op-up").

Offers are fixed price offers, either in € or in AY+points. The latter kind is only valid for members of AY+, while €-offers are directed to all kind of travellers.

Offers are made either in mail or via text message and recipient has 72 hours to repspond. Some reports says this time is now shortened to 48 hours. Text message offers typically arrive close to departure and may not state a last time to reply.

Offers in text message can be replied to and upgrade is instantly processed. Offers in mail has occasionally not cleared (said to be "sold out" when accepting offer too late).

If offer is accepted and upgrade clears, new ticket is issued in F, so a confirmed upgrade with all perks of business class included. Mileage earning is according to original fare class however.


Development
In august 2015 AY announced a trial to let travellers bid for upgrades, initially on AY89 and AY90. It is likely that bidding will affect the number of fixed price offers.

The trial has been made permanent, and the bidding for upgrade has been extended to more longhaul routes.
The program has also led to a consolidation of upgrade options to one webpage
https://www.finnair.com/int/gb/upgrade-options
where you can upgrade by bidding, by using AY+ points or by accepting last minute cash offers. The latter ("Last minute" offers) are the same as have been discussed in this thread.. Finnair still pushes those offers via e-mail and text-message, but now also shows them on this webpage.




Offers made
Here is a condensed list of offers made, processed including post #213.
Figures are in € unless otherwise stated. Each destination's offers are recorded in a single line in time order.

Longhaul
SIN-HEL 248, 348, 348
HEL-SIN 499, 499, 348, 349€

JFK-HEL 48k points, 348€, 348€, 499

HKG-HEL 248
HEL-HKG 348

BKK-HEL 298, 348, 348
HEL-BKK 48k points, 348€, 348€ (290€ on phone? Not yet confirmed)
HEL-HKT 348

NRT-HEL 498
HEL-KIX 348, 375 (12/19, 01/20)
KIX-HEL 391 (12/19, 01/20)

ICN-HEL 248, 318

HEL-PVG 298
PVG-HEL 448, 498

CKG-HEL 228
XIY-HEL 248

HEL-DEL 198
HEL-DEL 300 (4/19)

YYZ-HEL 225€, 225


Shorthaul
DXB-HEL 99

HEL-VNO 7k points

HEL-BUD 69€
BUD-HEL 69, 8k points, 69

HEL-PRG 69€
PRG-HEL ≈70€

CPH-HEL 7k points, 7k, 69€, 7k, 69€
HEL-CPH 69€, 69, 69

HEL-ARN 7,5k points, 41€

HEL-GOT 7k points
GOT-HEL 7k points

HEL-VIE 69€

HEL-CDG 69€, 69€, 69
CDG-HEL 89€

HEL-MXP 69

HEL-TXL 9k points, 9k
HEL-DUS 69

HEL-HAM 69,69
HAM-HEL 69

HEL-FRA 69€
FRA-HEL 69€, 89, 89€

BRU-HEL 69

GVA-HEL 69
HEL-GVA 69, 89

HEL-LHR 9k points
HEL-LHR 109€

HEL-MAD 89€, 9k points

HEL-SVO 69€

HEL-WAW 79€
WAW-HEL 79€

DUS-HEL 69€

HEL-OSL 42€

HEL-MUC 90 (01/20)
MUC-HEL 115€ (01/20)
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Old Jul 19, 2015, 10:45 am
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JFK-HEL
Fare class: M
Advance: About 10 days
Validity: 48h
Price: 499e
Method: email
Status: OWS not on AY

HEL-SVO
All details the same except..
Price: 69
My more important question
How is seat 21L in Economy Comfort? I'm quite tall (195/196cm with shoes) so struggle with bulkheads, read a few trip reports saying it's good but not really sure. Should I move to an emergency exit row or to the back of economy comfort?

edit: nvm, thanks to intuition's wonderful flowchart in the economy comfort thread, I know to avoid row 21 since there is no row H in row 21

So new question: row 25 vs exit row in A343?

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Old Jul 19, 2015, 4:20 pm
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Originally Posted by JDiver

SIA is Xiguan airport, closed in 1994.
While OT: AY is also still selling tickets - or at least charge descriptions on my CC statement say so - to Kai Tak.
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Old Jul 20, 2015, 8:01 am
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Resent the next day for 498 EUR

Originally Posted by br2k
City-pair: PVG-HEL
Price: 448 EUR
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Old Jul 20, 2015, 8:56 am
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Originally Posted by br2k
Resent the next day for 498 EUR
Reading your messages has sure given me a couple of laughs recently - even though I am not sure whether I should laughing or crying .
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Old Jul 21, 2015, 6:28 am
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Location: HEL
Programs: SPG LTP, hotels, OWE, STE+, *G, Octopus
Posts: 5,785
City-pair: HEL-GVA
Price: 89€
Flier tier: Finnair Plus Basic
Ticket type: not sure "Light"
Advance: not sure
Validity: not sure
Conveyance: e-mail
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Old Jul 21, 2015, 11:15 am
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The interesting thing about the s/h offers, how near they are to my valuation of AY points - 8-10k = 70-90€ (=1 upgr voucher)
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Old Jul 23, 2015, 8:55 am
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Join Date: May 2014
Location: HEL
Programs: AY+Plat, ALL Plat, Scandic L2
Posts: 3,620
City-pair: HEL-MAD
Price: 9000 points or one S/H voucher
Ticket type: Q Value
Advance: 1 day
Validity: 16 hours
Conveyance: SMS

Had tried and failed to upgrade online at the reduced summer point price... Now I shall stay in Legroom Y with preordered meal.
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Old Jul 30, 2015, 1:28 am
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Join Date: May 2014
Location: HEL
Programs: AY+Plat, ALL Plat, Scandic L2
Posts: 3,620
City-pair: HEL-PRG
Price: 69€
Flier tier: Finnair Plus Gold
Ticket type: Z Light
Advance: 10 days and 198 minutes
Validity: 48 hours
Conveyance: e-mail
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Old Aug 4, 2015, 12:57 am
  #204  
 
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Location: HEL
Programs: AY+ Platinum / OW Emerald
Posts: 31
City-pair: HEL-CPH
Price: 69€
Flier tier: Finnair Plus Platinum
Ticket type: H (Pro)
Advance: 10 days
Validity: 48 hours
Conveyance: e-mail

With points accrual as per original booking class (Y) I will probably decline the generous offer, print it out and might use it as a toilet paper.
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Old Aug 4, 2015, 1:52 am
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Originally Posted by log6just
With points accrual as per original booking class (Y) I will probably decline the generous offer, print it out and might use it as a toilet paper.
From Pro's 150% to Business' 200%, who would care anyway? Taking your Platinum bonus into account, 69€ for 625 points would not be that great of a deal.
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Old Aug 4, 2015, 3:57 am
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City-pair: HEL-WAW
Price: 79€
Flier tier: BA Silver (OWS)
Ticket type: Light
Advance: 7 days
Validity: 36 hours
Conveyance: E-mail

City-pair: WAW-HEL
Price: 79€
Flier tier: BA Silver (OWS)
Ticket type: Light
Advance: 7 days
Validity: 36 hours
Conveyance: E-mail

Thanks but no thanks as I already have exit seats booked, and get lounge access anyway.
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Old Aug 4, 2015, 10:46 am
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Originally Posted by Courmisch
From Pro's 150% to Business' 200%, who would care anyway? Taking your Platinum bonus into account, 69€ for 625 points would not be that great of a deal.
True that. Nevertheless, with AY plat lounge access is granted, the seat selection is free and I don't have opportunity to drink champagne on board this time.
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Old Aug 4, 2015, 11:03 am
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Originally Posted by Courmisch
From Pro's 150% to Business' 200%, who would care anyway? Taking your Platinum bonus into account, 69€ for 625 points would not be that great of a deal.
Wasn't it the original fare class that remains for mileage accrual?
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Old Aug 4, 2015, 11:20 am
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Originally Posted by FFlash
Wasn't it the original fare class that remains for mileage accrual?
Yes, but he was just indicating how for AY accrual the difference between original and upgraded earnings wouldn't be that great in this case anyway. Quite different for BAEC accrual, however.
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Old Aug 5, 2015, 2:15 pm
  #210  
 
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Hi,

Few recent offers from AY to upgrade:

1, City-pair: HEL-CDG AY871 (18 July)
Price: 69€
Flier tier: AY Gold (OWS)
Ticket type: Value
Advance: 10 days
Validity: 48 hours
Conveyance: E-mail

2, City-pair: CDG-HEL AY874 (25 July)
Price: 89€
Flier tier: AY Gold (OWS)
Ticket type: Value
Advance: 10 days
Validity: 48 hours
Conveyance: E-mail

3, City-pair: HEL-BUD AY753 (12 August)
Price: 69€
Flier tier: AY Gold (OWS)
Ticket type: Value
Advance: 10 days
Validity: 48 hours
Conveyance: E-mail

Didn't take any of the offers, though I've upgraded myself with 8000 points for the HEL-CDG flight
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