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Background
From time to time, AY will make the Y traveller an offer to upgrade. This thread lists when, how and and how much the upgrade is.
Selection process is unknown, but it is likely that neither fare class on original ticket nor tier status of traveller is a selection criteria, at least not to travellers advantage. From the reports made so far, both travellers with and without FF# in the reservation have gotten offers.
Offers are likely made only when Y is oversold or nearly full. Some travellers have reported declining offer and being upgraded for free later ("op-up").
Offers are fixed price offers, either in € or in AY+points. The latter kind is only valid for members of AY+, while €-offers are directed to all kind of travellers.
Offers are made either in mail or via text message and recipient has 72 hours to repspond. Some reports says this time is now shortened to 48 hours. Text message offers typically arrive close to departure and may not state a last time to reply.
Offers in text message can be replied to and upgrade is instantly processed. Offers in mail has occasionally not cleared (said to be "sold out" when accepting offer too late).
If offer is accepted and upgrade clears, new ticket is issued in F, so a confirmed upgrade with all perks of business class included. Mileage earning is according to original fare class however.
Development
In august 2015 AY announced a trial to let travellers bid for upgrades, initially on AY89 and AY90. It is likely that bidding will affect the number of fixed price offers.
The trial has been made permanent, and the bidding for upgrade has been extended to more longhaul routes.
The program has also led to a consolidation of upgrade options to one webpage
https://www.finnair.com/int/gb/upgrade-options
where you can upgrade by bidding, by using AY+ points or by accepting last minute cash offers. The latter ("Last minute" offers) are the same as have been discussed in this thread.. Finnair still pushes those offers via e-mail and text-message, but now also shows them on this webpage.
Offers made
Here is a condensed list of offers made, processed including post #213.
Figures are in € unless otherwise stated. Each destination's offers are recorded in a single line in time order.
Longhaul
SIN-HEL 248, 348, 348
HEL-SIN 499, 499, 348, 349€
JFK-HEL 48k points, 348€, 348€, 499
HKG-HEL 248
HEL-HKG 348
BKK-HEL 298, 348, 348
HEL-BKK 48k points, 348€, 348€ (290€ on phone? Not yet confirmed)
HEL-HKT 348
NRT-HEL 498
HEL-KIX 348, 375 (12/19, 01/20)
KIX-HEL 391 (12/19, 01/20)
ICN-HEL 248, 318
HEL-PVG 298
PVG-HEL 448, 498
CKG-HEL 228
XIY-HEL 248
HEL-DEL 198
HEL-DEL 300 (4/19)
YYZ-HEL 225€, 225
Shorthaul
DXB-HEL 99
HEL-VNO 7k points
HEL-BUD 69€
BUD-HEL 69, 8k points, 69
HEL-PRG 69€
PRG-HEL ≈70€
CPH-HEL 7k points, 7k, 69€, 7k, 69€
HEL-CPH 69€, 69, 69
HEL-ARN 7,5k points, 41€
HEL-GOT 7k points
GOT-HEL 7k points
HEL-VIE 69€
HEL-CDG 69€, 69€, 69
CDG-HEL 89€
HEL-MXP 69
HEL-TXL 9k points, 9k
HEL-DUS 69
HEL-HAM 69,69
HAM-HEL 69
HEL-FRA 69€
FRA-HEL 69€, 89, 89€
BRU-HEL 69
GVA-HEL 69
HEL-GVA 69, 89
HEL-LHR 9k points
HEL-LHR 109€
HEL-MAD 89€, 9k points
HEL-SVO 69€
HEL-WAW 79€
WAW-HEL 79€
DUS-HEL 69€
HEL-OSL 42€
HEL-MUC 90 (01/20)
MUC-HEL 115€ (01/20)
From time to time, AY will make the Y traveller an offer to upgrade. This thread lists when, how and and how much the upgrade is.
Selection process is unknown, but it is likely that neither fare class on original ticket nor tier status of traveller is a selection criteria, at least not to travellers advantage. From the reports made so far, both travellers with and without FF# in the reservation have gotten offers.
Offers are likely made only when Y is oversold or nearly full. Some travellers have reported declining offer and being upgraded for free later ("op-up").
Offers are fixed price offers, either in € or in AY+points. The latter kind is only valid for members of AY+, while €-offers are directed to all kind of travellers.
Offers are made either in mail or via text message and recipient has 72 hours to repspond. Some reports says this time is now shortened to 48 hours. Text message offers typically arrive close to departure and may not state a last time to reply.
Offers in text message can be replied to and upgrade is instantly processed. Offers in mail has occasionally not cleared (said to be "sold out" when accepting offer too late).
If offer is accepted and upgrade clears, new ticket is issued in F, so a confirmed upgrade with all perks of business class included. Mileage earning is according to original fare class however.
Development
In august 2015 AY announced a trial to let travellers bid for upgrades, initially on AY89 and AY90. It is likely that bidding will affect the number of fixed price offers.
The trial has been made permanent, and the bidding for upgrade has been extended to more longhaul routes.
The program has also led to a consolidation of upgrade options to one webpage
https://www.finnair.com/int/gb/upgrade-options
where you can upgrade by bidding, by using AY+ points or by accepting last minute cash offers. The latter ("Last minute" offers) are the same as have been discussed in this thread.. Finnair still pushes those offers via e-mail and text-message, but now also shows them on this webpage.
Offers made
Here is a condensed list of offers made, processed including post #213.
Figures are in € unless otherwise stated. Each destination's offers are recorded in a single line in time order.
Longhaul
SIN-HEL 248, 348, 348
HEL-SIN 499, 499, 348, 349€
JFK-HEL 48k points, 348€, 348€, 499
HKG-HEL 248
HEL-HKG 348
BKK-HEL 298, 348, 348
HEL-BKK 48k points, 348€, 348€ (290€ on phone? Not yet confirmed)
HEL-HKT 348
NRT-HEL 498
HEL-KIX 348, 375 (12/19, 01/20)
KIX-HEL 391 (12/19, 01/20)
ICN-HEL 248, 318
HEL-PVG 298
PVG-HEL 448, 498
CKG-HEL 228
XIY-HEL 248
HEL-DEL 198
HEL-DEL 300 (4/19)
YYZ-HEL 225€, 225
Shorthaul
DXB-HEL 99
HEL-VNO 7k points
HEL-BUD 69€
BUD-HEL 69, 8k points, 69
HEL-PRG 69€
PRG-HEL ≈70€
CPH-HEL 7k points, 7k, 69€, 7k, 69€
HEL-CPH 69€, 69, 69
HEL-ARN 7,5k points, 41€
HEL-GOT 7k points
GOT-HEL 7k points
HEL-VIE 69€
HEL-CDG 69€, 69€, 69
CDG-HEL 89€
HEL-MXP 69
HEL-TXL 9k points, 9k
HEL-DUS 69
HEL-HAM 69,69
HAM-HEL 69
HEL-FRA 69€
FRA-HEL 69€, 89, 89€
BRU-HEL 69
GVA-HEL 69
HEL-GVA 69, 89
HEL-LHR 9k points
HEL-LHR 109€
HEL-MAD 89€, 9k points
HEL-SVO 69€
HEL-WAW 79€
WAW-HEL 79€
DUS-HEL 69€
HEL-OSL 42€
HEL-MUC 90 (01/20)
MUC-HEL 115€ (01/20)
Please post your upgrade offers
#196
Suspended
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 2,685
JFK-HEL
Fare class: M
Advance: About 10 days
Validity: 48h
Price: 499e
Method: email
Status: OWS not on AY
HEL-SVO
All details the same except..
Price: 69
My more important question
How is seat 21L in Economy Comfort? I'm quite tall (195/196cm with shoes) so struggle with bulkheads, read a few trip reports saying it's good but not really sure. Should I move to an emergency exit row or to the back of economy comfort?
edit: nvm, thanks to intuition's wonderful flowchart in the economy comfort thread, I know to avoid row 21 since there is no row H in row 21
So new question: row 25 vs exit row in A343?
Fare class: M
Advance: About 10 days
Validity: 48h
Price: 499e
Method: email
Status: OWS not on AY
HEL-SVO
All details the same except..
Price: 69
My more important question
How is seat 21L in Economy Comfort? I'm quite tall (195/196cm with shoes) so struggle with bulkheads, read a few trip reports saying it's good but not really sure. Should I move to an emergency exit row or to the back of economy comfort?
edit: nvm, thanks to intuition's wonderful flowchart in the economy comfort thread, I know to avoid row 21 since there is no row H in row 21
So new question: row 25 vs exit row in A343?
Last edited by mpkz; Jul 19, 2015 at 12:03 pm
#197
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Helsinki, Finland
Programs: AMEX Plat / AY Plat, BA GGL-CCR / Bonvoy Titanium (LTP)
Posts: 474
#202
Join Date: May 2014
Location: HEL
Programs: AY+Plat, ALL Plat, Scandic L2
Posts: 3,620
City-pair: HEL-MAD
Price: 9000 points or one S/H voucher
Ticket type: Q Value
Advance: 1 day
Validity: 16 hours
Conveyance: SMS
Had tried and failed to upgrade online at the reduced summer point price... Now I shall stay in Legroom Y with preordered meal.
Price: 9000 points or one S/H voucher
Ticket type: Q Value
Advance: 1 day
Validity: 16 hours
Conveyance: SMS
Had tried and failed to upgrade online at the reduced summer point price... Now I shall stay in Legroom Y with preordered meal.
#204
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: HEL
Programs: AY+ Platinum / OW Emerald
Posts: 31
City-pair: HEL-CPH
Price: 69€
Flier tier: Finnair Plus Platinum
Ticket type: H (Pro)
Advance: 10 days
Validity: 48 hours
Conveyance: e-mail
With points accrual as per original booking class (Y) I will probably decline the generous offer, print it out and might use it as a toilet paper.
Price: 69€
Flier tier: Finnair Plus Platinum
Ticket type: H (Pro)
Advance: 10 days
Validity: 48 hours
Conveyance: e-mail
With points accrual as per original booking class (Y) I will probably decline the generous offer, print it out and might use it as a toilet paper.
#205
Join Date: May 2014
Location: HEL
Programs: AY+Plat, ALL Plat, Scandic L2
Posts: 3,620
From Pro's 150% to Business' 200%, who would care anyway? Taking your Platinum bonus into account, 69€ for 625 points would not be that great of a deal.
#206
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Helsinki, Finland
Programs: BA Gold (OWE), Bonvoy Gold, HH Diamond, PriorityPass, AX Plat
Posts: 526
City-pair: HEL-WAW
Price: 79€
Flier tier: BA Silver (OWS)
Ticket type: Light
Advance: 7 days
Validity: 36 hours
Conveyance: E-mail
City-pair: WAW-HEL
Price: 79€
Flier tier: BA Silver (OWS)
Ticket type: Light
Advance: 7 days
Validity: 36 hours
Conveyance: E-mail
Thanks but no thanks as I already have exit seats booked, and get lounge access anyway.
Price: 79€
Flier tier: BA Silver (OWS)
Ticket type: Light
Advance: 7 days
Validity: 36 hours
Conveyance: E-mail
City-pair: WAW-HEL
Price: 79€
Flier tier: BA Silver (OWS)
Ticket type: Light
Advance: 7 days
Validity: 36 hours
Conveyance: E-mail
Thanks but no thanks as I already have exit seats booked, and get lounge access anyway.
#207
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: HEL
Programs: AY+ Platinum / OW Emerald
Posts: 31
True that. Nevertheless, with AY plat lounge access is granted, the seat selection is free and I don't have opportunity to drink champagne on board this time.
#208
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: HEL
Programs: AY, SK, TK
Posts: 7,598
#209
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: London
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 1,464
#210
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Helsinki, Finland
Programs: Finnair (AY) Platinum, Air France Silver, Tallink Club One Silver :)
Posts: 1,655
Hi,
Few recent offers from AY to upgrade:
1, City-pair: HEL-CDG AY871 (18 July)
Price: 69€
Flier tier: AY Gold (OWS)
Ticket type: Value
Advance: 10 days
Validity: 48 hours
Conveyance: E-mail
2, City-pair: CDG-HEL AY874 (25 July)
Price: 89€
Flier tier: AY Gold (OWS)
Ticket type: Value
Advance: 10 days
Validity: 48 hours
Conveyance: E-mail
3, City-pair: HEL-BUD AY753 (12 August)
Price: 69€
Flier tier: AY Gold (OWS)
Ticket type: Value
Advance: 10 days
Validity: 48 hours
Conveyance: E-mail
Didn't take any of the offers, though I've upgraded myself with 8000 points for the HEL-CDG flight
Few recent offers from AY to upgrade:
1, City-pair: HEL-CDG AY871 (18 July)
Price: 69€
Flier tier: AY Gold (OWS)
Ticket type: Value
Advance: 10 days
Validity: 48 hours
Conveyance: E-mail
2, City-pair: CDG-HEL AY874 (25 July)
Price: 89€
Flier tier: AY Gold (OWS)
Ticket type: Value
Advance: 10 days
Validity: 48 hours
Conveyance: E-mail
3, City-pair: HEL-BUD AY753 (12 August)
Price: 69€
Flier tier: AY Gold (OWS)
Ticket type: Value
Advance: 10 days
Validity: 48 hours
Conveyance: E-mail
Didn't take any of the offers, though I've upgraded myself with 8000 points for the HEL-CDG flight