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Information on Load requests

The number of seats for sale for a flight are available via ExpertFlyer.com, a subscription-based service with a 5-day free trial. A subscription is $9.99/month and can be enabled and disabled any time. It is encouraged to subscribe rather than post repeatedly in this thread.

NB: Op-up changes or overselling of a flight cannot be determined with certainty from this information, only inferred to be more or less probable.

For a once-off load request please follow these guidelines:

Flight loads >7 days out are not very useful, as the airline could still sell many seats, unless availability of a specific fare bucket (e.g. Business Saver upgrade) is requested. If you wish to know the general flight load please don't post >7 days before departure.

When requesting a load please provide the following information:

- Date of flight (departure date)
- Flight Number
- Origin
- Destination

These four fields are mandatory in searching on ExpertFlyer (see screenshot below) and it isn't fair to except those who pay for their subscriptions to also have to go look up which cities a specific flight number is from and to (also some flight numbers are onward flights (5th freedom routes, e.g. CMB-MLE) and loads will differ significantly depending on which sector of the flight is checked.

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Old Aug 14, 2017, 5:09 am
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Originally Posted by mrog88
Sorry if I was unclear, 3 out of 4 of my flights have a seat already assigned. However the first one says incomplete and when I go to select one, none are available.
They'll find you a seat at check-in, no worries. The flight is probably overbooked and some PAX will be upgraded to make room.

What's your fare type ? (Special/Saver/Flex/Flex Plus)

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Old Aug 14, 2017, 7:23 am
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Thanks for that.

It's a flex fare
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Old Aug 14, 2017, 8:11 am
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testtest

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Old Aug 14, 2017, 8:56 am
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Originally Posted by imhere2stay
can someone please check the loads for EK 653 on September 6th, and EK 201 on september 7th? I have flex tickets booked from maldives to JFK(as part of the fare error 3 months ago). I want to upgrade the flex tickets via miles but I see no D availability, when there there are many O seats available. If D availability does not open up online, can I still upgrade our flights with miles using miles out of my father's account?(im assigned as a travel coordinator in his skywards account)

and lastly, since I booked flex tickets, would we still have a higher chance of an op-up even though our flex tickets were only like $100?
Sounds like you've already checked or have access if you can see D and O availability.

You can upgrade once OLCI opens, but not sure about using someone else's account. once OLCI opens it's based on space available, perhaps by calling you'd be able to use his account, though there have been reports of EK not processing space-available upgrades until boarding in hopes of selling the seats.

The physical USD cost of the ticket is irrelevant to op-ups, it's ranked as follows:

1. All Plats (sub-ranked by fare type and fare bucket)
2. All Flex Plus (sub-ranked by status first and fare bucket next)
3. All Flex (sub-ranked by status first and fare bucket next)
4. All Saver (sub-ranked as per 3.)
5. All Special (sub-ranked as per 3.)

fare bucket = the single-letter fare bucket identifier, e.g. Y, W, M, T, etc. If it was a mistake fare and you're in Flex you're probably in a decent fare bucket, I don't think the USD or base fare cost ever ranks in, except maybe in a fare bucket tie.
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Old Aug 14, 2017, 9:57 am
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test test

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Old Aug 14, 2017, 9:58 am
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Originally Posted by imhere2stay
thanks! so based on the op-up ranking system, I will be above a gold on a saver ticket even though i have no status?
Correct. Above anyone on a ticket lower than Flex.
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Old Aug 14, 2017, 2:23 pm
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How does EK28 on Wednesday 16th and EK384 on Thursday 17th look?
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Old Aug 14, 2017, 3:40 pm
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Originally Posted by ft101
how does ek28 on wednesday 16th and ek384 on thursday 17th look?
ek28
f4 a4 j1 c1 i1 o0 p0 y6 e6 r6 w6 m6 b6 u0 k0 h0 q0 l0 t0 v0 x0

ek384
f4 a4 j7 c7 i7 o7 p5 y9 e9 r9 w9 m9 b9 u9 k9 h0 q9 l9 t9 v0 x0
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Old Aug 14, 2017, 7:00 pm
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Originally Posted by 773ER
ek28
f4 a4 j1 c1 i1 o0 p0 y6 e6 r6 w6 m6 b6 u0 k0 h0 q0 l0 t0 v0 x0

ek384
f4 a4 j7 c7 i7 o7 p5 y9 e9 r9 w9 m9 b9 u9 k9 h0 q9 l9 t9 v0 x0
Thanks.

A dummy booking just now shows only 3 economy seats being offered on EK28 (either as a single trip or with a return in a couple of weeks).

Married with EK384 there's none.
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Old Aug 14, 2017, 7:46 pm
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Is there something odd with EK systems tonight? Earlier I priced up a LGW-JNB return (out 20th bank 26th) in Y at £860 and it gave me a choice of flights/times.

3 hours later every flight ex London for 3 days is full in Y??? And every flight ex JNB on 26th.
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Old Aug 14, 2017, 9:33 pm
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Originally Posted by simons1
Is there something odd with EK systems tonight? Earlier I priced up a LGW-JNB return (out 20th bank 26th) in Y at £860 and it gave me a choice of flights/times.

3 hours later every flight ex London for 3 days is full in Y??? And every flight ex JNB on 26th.
Are you looking at this month? It looks like there is no Y availability for those dates in August. £860 would be Y Flex + fares so it may just have sold out.
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Old Aug 15, 2017, 6:58 am
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Originally Posted by sydtogla
Are you looking at this month? It looks like there is no Y availability for those dates in August. £860 would be Y Flex + fares so it may just have sold out.
Indeed thanks. In the end I called up, apparently all London flights are sold out for 5 days.
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Old Aug 17, 2017, 2:24 am
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Hi Guys,

Is there anyone who could please find out load on EK573 for tomorrow (18th August). I tried myself but couldn't, though I have the EF data.

Would really appreciate if someone can help!

Thanks
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Old Aug 17, 2017, 2:47 am
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Originally Posted by viraj737
Hi Guys,

Is there anyone who could please find out load on EK573 for tomorrow (18th August). I tried myself but couldn't, though I have the EF data.

Would really appreciate if someone can help!

Thanks
How do you mean?

F2 A1 J7 C7 I7 O7 P7 Y9 E9 R9 W9 M9
B9 U0 K0 H0 Q0 L0 T0 V0 X0

Looks oversold. This is for 18th August (I assume by tomorrow you mean Friday and that you're in CCU).

Funny, I'll actually be in CCU next Wednesday for work for the day, but unfortunately flying AI (I think)
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Old Aug 17, 2017, 3:08 am
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Originally Posted by skywardhunter
How do you mean?

F2 A1 J7 C7 I7 O7 P7 Y9 E9 R9 W9 M9
B9 U0 K0 H0 Q0 L0 T0 V0 X0

Looks oversold. This is for 18th August (I assume by tomorrow you mean Friday and that you're in CCU).

Funny, I'll actually be in CCU next Wednesday for work for the day, but unfortunately flying AI (I think)
Haha yes I'm not being able to figure. I'm in CCU atm and I'm flying out tomorrow. They asked for 12k for OLCI upgrade. I know more people flying who have no status and they too got the same offer. Offer is still there since check-in opened last night.

AI to CCU on the 319?
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