Inaugural A350-900 flight from USA fails - Delta mentioned
Dec 13, 2015, 6:10 pm
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Dec 13, 2015, 6:17 pm
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A factual report:
Incident: Qatar A359 at New York on Dec 10th 2015, rejected takeoff
Editorial commentary:
Qatar Airways incidents send it screeching into PR, safety crises
Incident: Qatar A359 at New York on Dec 10th 2015, rejected takeoff
The crew advised they received a warning for takeoff, they weren't sure they could do another attempt for takeoff from runway 22R.
Qatar Airways incidents send it screeching into PR, safety crises
But it also requires an open mind as to what happened at JFK. This may not have been the fault of the airline. The responses of the pilots to the apparent error were clearly immediate and highly professional. The causes of that incident may lie elsewhere, and they require the same diligent and fearless inquiry that was shown in the Qatar safety authorities preliminary factual release concerning the Miami incident to bring out the truth.
Dec 13, 2015, 6:25 pm
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Yes, Airbus brushes all incidents under the table and is very untrustworthy. Boeing has had their problems but they fix them instead of ignoring them.
Dec 13, 2015, 7:12 pm
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I'd guess something wasn't programmed properly into the FMS? Could have been runway, temp, weather, weight of fuel/cargo/pax, etc. Or even a simple mix up of feet and meters. Remember a few months back when the Qatar 777 departing Miami did an intersection departure, rotated well past a point of normal safe takeoff, and struck the approach lighting as it lumbered into the sky (and then continued for some 12+ hours to Doha)?
And just on a personal note, over the past year or two I have warmed up to Airbus aircraft as a passenger, as well as the likelihood I'll be behind the controls of one in the next decade or so (seeing the amounts of airlines that currently fly them and/or are ordering them). Some features are neat, like when you pitch back on the stick and approach a stall, and the computer senses it and can drive the nose down and add power. On the other hand, the computer can decide it "senses" things and shut out the human operator (which has the potential to be a bit terrifying). I'm not going to run around all doom-and-gloom and allude to HAL 9000, but it is still a bit unnerving.
And just on a personal note, over the past year or two I have warmed up to Airbus aircraft as a passenger, as well as the likelihood I'll be behind the controls of one in the next decade or so (seeing the amounts of airlines that currently fly them and/or are ordering them). Some features are neat, like when you pitch back on the stick and approach a stall, and the computer senses it and can drive the nose down and add power. On the other hand, the computer can decide it "senses" things and shut out the human operator (which has the potential to be a bit terrifying). I'm not going to run around all doom-and-gloom and allude to HAL 9000, but it is still a bit unnerving.
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Dec 13, 2015, 7:15 pm
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English system versus metric caused a big crash in Canada when there was confusion about how much fuel the aircraft had.
Dec 13, 2015, 7:21 pm
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Dec 13, 2015, 7:22 pm
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Dec 13, 2015, 7:22 pm
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Dec 13, 2015, 7:24 pm
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I remember my first and only Airbus flight in July of 2004. I was supposed to be flying JFK-ATL-MEM but due to irrops was rerouted JFK-DCA-MEM with DCA-MEM being operated by an NWA A320. Not long after leaving DCA the pilots made an announcement that they needed to restart the computers and would need to shut down an engine. They seemed like it was quite routine. I haven't been on a bus since. That's never been a problem on an MD, Boeing, Bombardier, or Embraer.
Dec 13, 2015, 8:17 pm
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By the way, Airbus has delivered over 8,000 planes. I am guessing their safety record must be close to that of other airlines mentioned above.
Not defending Airbus at all - and actually prefer Boeing. But....
Dec 13, 2015, 8:25 pm
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My guess is that it was pilot error in inputing data into the A350, but I hate to think of how those pilots might be disciplined by Qatar once they're back in the mideast.
Dec 13, 2015, 9:12 pm
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Dec 13, 2015, 9:21 pm
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Perhaps it was the runway length data or some other factor. That or something quirky that was over a limit by just enough to say "not enough runway" (example: the summer before airlines were offloading pax, cargo, and fuel on longer transcon flights out of SLC and PHX during really hot days - the reason was single engine climb performance in the conditions. I can't say for sure what the cause was with this A35 - only speculate.
Dec 13, 2015, 9:24 pm
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I've never known of Airbus to admit fault. They just make "enhancements" and "software updates".
McDonnell-Douglas had the same attitude with the DC-10. For a long time they refused to acknowledge the design flaws in the DC-10 and lots of people died because of it.
McDonnell-Douglas had the same attitude with the DC-10. For a long time they refused to acknowledge the design flaws in the DC-10 and lots of people died because of it.
Dec 13, 2015, 9:55 pm
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I've never known of Airbus to admit fault. They just make "enhancements" and "software updates".
McDonnell-Douglas had the same attitude with the DC-10. For a long time they refused to acknowledge the design flaws in the DC-10 and lots of people died because of it.
McDonnell-Douglas had the same attitude with the DC-10. For a long time they refused to acknowledge the design flaws in the DC-10 and lots of people died because of it.