Why Skymiles 2015 looks good to me
Apr 22, 2014, 8:46 am
#31
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And for those making comments about OPM - well, when my client calls on Thursday and asks me to be there on Monday, it's not like I'm going to tell them no. They've already decided it's worth spending their money to get me there. When I go to book I spend their money like it's my own and find the cheapest logical fare being sold at that time. Four days out, "cheapest" isn't exactly going to be cheap, but I certainly don't feel like I'm wasting their money.
My travel for work has been less and less due to travel restrictions within the DoD ever since the sequester was put into effect, so most of my flying is on my own dime, but I don't get why people on here complain about flyers who fly on "OPM". 1) Why is it any of their business? (Hint: it's not) 2) Why does it matter to DL if the name on the CC matches the name on the ticket so long as Delta gets paid?
The only thing I can attribute it to is jealousy and that the people who whine about those who fly on "OPM" are the "I get status through Mileage Running" Types who are about to get a reality check regarding the real value of their flying. I already know and accept that I'm not an HVC so these new changes aren't coming as a shock to me. Some people just can't handle finding out they're not as important as they think they are though.
Apr 22, 2014, 8:47 am
#32
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I'm not picking high fare because i want to, I'm buying the cheapest I can that doesn't involve ridiculous connections.
Apr 22, 2014, 8:50 am
#33
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Nothing in this post has anything to do with status and nothing is changing regarding status in 2015 except for MQD's.
Don't know why you thought it was relevant to bring it up.
I also noticed you didn't mention RDM's at all in your post. I know that you know RDM earning is changing yet you failed to mention that. Why leave that out?
Unless you're trying to push negativity....
Apr 22, 2014, 9:08 am
#34
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Many, like you, will benefit. More will be hurt. DL is rewarding bigger spenders but there's no way to know how it will fare for them long term. Many frequent fliers who spend plenty with DL may move on. I think for now it will depend a lot on what the other carriers do to match or compete.
Apr 22, 2014, 9:38 am
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+1
My travel for work has been less and less due to travel restrictions within the DoD ever since the sequester was put into effect, so most of my flying is on my own dime, but I don't get why people on here complain about flyers who fly on "OPM". 1) Why is it any of their business? (Hint: it's not) 2) Why does it matter to DL if the name on the CC matches the name on the ticket so long as Delta gets paid?
The only thing I can attribute it to is jealousy and that the people who whine about those who fly on "OPM" are the "I get status through Mileage Running" Types who are about to get a reality check regarding the real value of their flying. I already know and accept that I'm not an HVC so these new changes aren't coming as a shock to me. Some people just can't handle finding out they're not as important as they think they are though.
My travel for work has been less and less due to travel restrictions within the DoD ever since the sequester was put into effect, so most of my flying is on my own dime, but I don't get why people on here complain about flyers who fly on "OPM". 1) Why is it any of their business? (Hint: it's not) 2) Why does it matter to DL if the name on the CC matches the name on the ticket so long as Delta gets paid?
The only thing I can attribute it to is jealousy and that the people who whine about those who fly on "OPM" are the "I get status through Mileage Running" Types who are about to get a reality check regarding the real value of their flying. I already know and accept that I'm not an HVC so these new changes aren't coming as a shock to me. Some people just can't handle finding out they're not as important as they think they are though.
On some fares, such as paid business class international fares, I will come out ahead. On some short haul cheap domestic fares, this will hurt me. In the end, probably won't make much difference.
My issue is that diamonds and platinum's are getting shafted with the bonus miles. There should be a better bonus.
Like the Skyclub changes, this will help a lot of travelers and is upsetting some.
Apr 22, 2014, 9:44 am
#36
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Correct but there seem to be a lot of people who take pride in being HVCs when in fact it is their employer who is the HVC. Just doesn't have the same ring to it does it?
Apr 22, 2014, 9:45 am
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I can think of lots of reasons why people might be called the salt of the earth, but paying more than average for airline tickets isn't one of them.
Apr 22, 2014, 9:53 am
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And for some flying on OPM's these changes could hurt them with RDM's if it's someone like a large corporation or government contractor that has hugely discounted actual Y tickets or allows first class. Under the current system they get 150% MQMs and rdm's. If their employer has a corporate/government discount with Delta, the miles will be based on what the employer paid, not the fare bucket.
On some fares, such as paid business class international fares, I will come out ahead. On some short haul cheap domestic fares, this will hurt me. In the end, probably won't make much difference.
My issue is that diamonds and platinum's are getting shafted with the bonus miles. There should be a better bonus.
Like the Skyclub changes, this will help a lot of travelers and is upsetting some.
On some fares, such as paid business class international fares, I will come out ahead. On some short haul cheap domestic fares, this will hurt me. In the end, probably won't make much difference.
My issue is that diamonds and platinum's are getting shafted with the bonus miles. There should be a better bonus.
Like the Skyclub changes, this will help a lot of travelers and is upsetting some.
Side Note: Our Reds need to get it in gear. They're not doing so well to start this season.
Apr 22, 2014, 10:56 am
#39
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I'm flabbergasted how you have spent so much money. I have 13,000 (9K in rollover) more MQMs than you, 4 less segments and $4000 less in MQD. I haven't booked one flight this year that was more than 13 days out with the exception of a weekend golf trip to Orlando and a lot of my trips are booked the Friday before. I'm also a hub captive but I do use RST to my advantage for cheaper flights. I still averaged over $600/ticket the past two weeks flying RST-MSP-OKC. One was booked the Thursday before and the other the Friday before. MSP-OKC would have averaged $1300/ticket.
Apr 22, 2014, 11:22 am
#40
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That would mean MPM each way would be at least 25000 (which is not true.)
RDM was not mentioned by the poster, only EQM.
Apr 22, 2014, 11:51 am
#41
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Another negative post. Thanks. I guess it's other people's money, just like all your tickets are, since your paycheck came from an employer(I assume). Airfare is included in my fees.
I actually don't find the card attractive compared to others. I prefer cash back instead of miles. I mainly use it at Costco.
I actually don't find the card attractive compared to others. I prefer cash back instead of miles. I mainly use it at Costco.
And you say you try to find the cheapest fare, on all airlines? There can be some pretty cheap last minute fares on US. Or the cheapest you can find on DL to benefit you.
You want to brag about how much you spend, but it is shallow when it doesn't come directly out of your own pocket.
Dear oh dear.
Apr 22, 2014, 12:11 pm
#43
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OPM aside, it's a bit ridiculous that some of us have to pay these fares. Competition around me makes it pretty affordable most of the time - even ATL is reasonable.
I think that even if I bought all FCM fares in 2015, I'd do worse than I do now. That's just the nature of the market I guess.
I think that even if I bought all FCM fares in 2015, I'd do worse than I do now. That's just the nature of the market I guess.
Apr 22, 2014, 12:17 pm
#44
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I'm with OP. ^
And for those making comments about OPM - well, when my client calls on Thursday and asks me to be there on Monday, it's not like I'm going to tell them no. They've already decided it's worth spending their money to get me there. When I go to book I spend their money like it's my own and find the cheapest logical fare being sold at that time. Four days out, "cheapest" isn't exactly going to be cheap, but I certainly don't feel like I'm wasting their money.
And for those making comments about OPM - well, when my client calls on Thursday and asks me to be there on Monday, it's not like I'm going to tell them no. They've already decided it's worth spending their money to get me there. When I go to book I spend their money like it's my own and find the cheapest logical fare being sold at that time. Four days out, "cheapest" isn't exactly going to be cheap, but I certainly don't feel like I'm wasting their money.
+1
I don't get why people on here complain about flyers who fly on "OPM". 1) Why is it any of their business? (Hint: it's not) 2) Why does it matter to DL if the name on the CC matches the name on the ticket so long as Delta gets paid?
The only thing I can attribute it to is jealousy and that the people who whine about those who fly on "OPM" are the "I get status through Mileage Running" Types who are about to get a reality check regarding the real value of their flying. I already know and accept that I'm not an HVC so these new changes aren't coming as a shock to me. Some people just can't handle finding out they're not as important as they think they are though.
I don't get why people on here complain about flyers who fly on "OPM". 1) Why is it any of their business? (Hint: it's not) 2) Why does it matter to DL if the name on the CC matches the name on the ticket so long as Delta gets paid?
The only thing I can attribute it to is jealousy and that the people who whine about those who fly on "OPM" are the "I get status through Mileage Running" Types who are about to get a reality check regarding the real value of their flying. I already know and accept that I'm not an HVC so these new changes aren't coming as a shock to me. Some people just can't handle finding out they're not as important as they think they are though.
^
Apr 22, 2014, 12:18 pm
#45
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Actually I own my company and every dime comes out of my pocket.
And you say you try to find the cheapest fare, on all airlines? There can be some pretty cheap last minute fares on US. Or the cheapest you can find on DL to benefit you.
You want to brag about how much you spend, but it is shallow when it doesn't come directly out of your own pocket.
And you say you try to find the cheapest fare, on all airlines? There can be some pretty cheap last minute fares on US. Or the cheapest you can find on DL to benefit you.
You want to brag about how much you spend, but it is shallow when it doesn't come directly out of your own pocket.
Again, I'm not bragging. I'm just saying I will be much better under the new system.